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 楼主| 发表于 2009-11-29 15:09:59 | 显示全部楼层

回顾下老大哥的历程:

2006年01月19日 13:01

华为改变财务口径纳税大户的利润之谜

华为改变财务口径:453亿元销售额拉近上市时间表?

有华为内部人士分析,无论是欧美一级市场的下一步大举开拓,还是即将要上马的中国3G,对投入资金的需求都将要远大于以前,彼时,“一定会有募集资金的愿望”。

1月15日,深圳华为技术有限公司发布了一则简短公告:其2005年全年销售收入达到453亿元人民币,同比增长40%左右。

“453 亿人民币”的数字引来华为员工一阵错愕。不久前,华为常务副总裁费敏在华为内部会议上宣布,华为2005年实际销售额突破86亿美金。”也就是666亿元人民币,其中国内为279亿,海外翻了一番。”华为一位人士对记者表示,86亿美金的业绩一公开,振奋人心。

华为官方对此向本报作出了简短解释:666亿元是华为2005年的合同销售额,453亿元则为实际销售额,“这是财务口径上的不同,但是无论哪一种口径,我们的业绩都是增加的。”

值得注意的是,“不管是内部还是外部”,此前华为一向都是以“合同销售额”作为业绩公布的口径。此次为何“突然改变财务口径”?

上市前奏?

“(突然改变了财务口径)意味着华为财务上正在趋向更为严谨和透明。”华为一位销售主管如是评价。

事实上,华为几年前即开始引入毕马威公司为其旗下多家公司进行财务审计,以保证财务的严谨与趋向透明。

这位华为主管表示,不仅如此,华为近两年组建和分拆的几个子公司也都经由毕马威进行审计,“财务管理是相当严格的”。

一位证券公司的电信分析师称,华为对外公开财务口径的变动使财务状况“水分更少了,与中兴通讯的可比性就更强了”。但他认为仅凭财务口径更改一项尚难把其与上市前奏划上等号。

不过,从各方面来看,华为都已经像是一个上足了发条的弹簧。

按照2004年华为实现合同销售额462亿元计算,其2005年的合同销售额足足增长了200多亿元。

华为内部人士亦对记者感叹,公司目前的状态已经步入了加速时期,无论是公司管理架构、市场拓展、财务管理、业绩都已经步入正轨:一方面,华为从1998年开始重金引入IBM的IPD(集成产品开发)管理流程;另一方面,通过2005年欧洲突破,华为连续拿下英国电信、法国电信、沃达丰等世界一流运营商,打入电信市场的高端阵营。

此外,从2001年开始,华为在财务与资本方面对公司架构进行了重新梳理:一方面从2001年开始,将公司 1997年以来实施的“全员持股”,逐步梳理为与公司净资产相匹配的“虚拟受限股”,以厘清华为迷雾一样的股权架构;另一方面,从2002年开始着手分拆,将数据、移动终端、芯片几大发展中业务从“华为技术有限公司”中剥离出来,以保证“华为技术有限公司”主业与核心资产的清晰。

德勤会计师事务所的一位人士对记者分析,暂时难以确认改变财务口径与上市之间的必然性,但是,假设华为上市在即,“是有必要提前这样做”。据他透露,不少会计师事务所皆视2006为中国的IPO大年,德勤从2005年下半年开始在中国扩招了1500人,即为2006-2007年的业务增长做准备。不过,华为目前不在德勤客户名单中。

各方面似乎都已准备就绪,但是上市的日程依旧无期。华为在等什么呢?

“华为不上市不能怪我们,我们在等中国政府(发3G牌)。”有华为人士调侃道,华为在万事俱备之后,在等候中国政府的3G发牌令。该人士认为,“中国3G发牌足以为华为上市营造最好的外部环境。”无论是欧美一级市场的下一步大举开拓,还是即将要上马的中国3G,对资金投入的需求都将要远大于以前,彼时,“一定会有募集资金的愿望”。

他说,按照这样的分析,或许可以做这样的猜想:中国的3G有多远,华为上市就有多远。

纳税大户的利润之谜

在2005年,华为究竟创造了多少利润?这是一个谜。

华为俄罗斯分公司负责人徐昕泉不久前曾对本报说过,“华为海外的业务就像滚滚洪水向前流,但是有两条大坝是不能倒的,一个是钱,一个是人。”

华为的大坝依旧坚固吗?

据前述华为人士表示,华为内部也曾在过去两年中时而公布过利润与负债情况:2004年合同销售额达462亿元,其中海外销售为22.8亿美元,净利润50亿元,资产负债为55.0%;在此之前的2003年,华为的合同销售额为317亿元,海外销售10.5亿美元,净利润38亿元。

但是,华为没有就2005年的销售利润作为任何披露。唯一可以查证的是,记者查阅中国信息产业部关于“中国电子百强企业”有关统计数据后发现,2005年 1-10月份,“百强企业”累计上交税金188.6亿元,在上交税金前10名的企业中,华为排在首位,为27.9亿元,其次为海尔20.2亿元、中兴通讯 19.2亿元。华为2005年前十个月交纳税金占“百强企业”总体1/6。不仅如此,根据记者查阅国家税务总局统计数据,华为已经连续多年排在中国纳税之首。

不过,信产部统计数据亦显示,2005年前十月利润统计中,“百强企业累计实现利润总额130.8亿元,同比下降46%,比上年同期大幅度下滑。电子百强企业平均营业收入利润率仅为1.8%,下降到历史最低点。”百强企业中亦出现13家亏损企业,及56家利润下降企业。华为则出现在56家利润下滑阶级名单之列。

华为人士分析,从2005年海外市场拓展的动作之大来看,这种“收入增长,利润率下滑”的状况亦属正常,“这投入来的压力是有的”,尤其是2005年突破最大的欧洲市场。“这是代表全球高端市场,与运营商磨合周期长,华为从2001年才开始进入,目前已经在欧洲26个国家有分公司和办事处,但是还没有到投入回报期,2004年我们内部统计欧洲销售额是2亿美金。”这位人士表示。

而从华为公开数字看,华为近两年研发投入空前巨大:2004年华为研发总投入是45亿元,约占销售收入的10%,而2005年上半年华为高层亦披露上半年合同销售330亿元,研发投入为35亿元,也超过了10%,已经达到全球领先企业的投入比率。

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-12-29 13:37:44 | 显示全部楼层

西安明年开建电动汽车充电站
2009-12-29 11:13:34 [来源:新华社] 评论0条

新华社西安12月29日专电 国家电网陕西省电力公司营销部主任高英南29日向记者透露,西安将于明年首次开工建设电动汽车充电站和充电桩,以促进西安电动汽车的发展。我国知名自主品牌汽车比亚迪公司将会从中受益。

  高英南介绍说,目前该项工作的规划已基本做完。明年国家电网陕西省电力公司将在西安投资兴建4个电动汽车充电站和200个充电桩。4个电动汽车充电站,西安城区内东南西北各一个。200个充电桩主要放置在西安的各小区、超市、公用停车场内。

  其中,每个充电站投资200万元-300万元,设有4个充电装置。一辆电动汽车充满电,一次需40分钟,可行驶300多公里。充电桩时间要长些。具体的计费标准还未出台,需由陕西省物价局来定。

  据了解,这是西安市首次兴建自己的电动汽车充电站和充电桩。对于西安这项新举措,汽车界的人士普遍认为,这将有利于比亚迪公司的发展。

  比亚迪公司与西安渊源很深,2003年比亚迪通过收购西安秦川汽车厂进入汽车制造与销售领域,西安市政府一直把比亚迪汽车视为当地汽车工业重要组成部分。2009年6月,比亚迪汽车公司与陕西政府部门签订了一系列合作、采购协议,被获准优先进入陕西市场,西安市政府对此大力支持。

  高英南对记者说,在具体建设过程中,国家电网陕西省电力公司肯定会考虑到比亚迪的因素,会与该公司进行接触。(记者毛海峰)

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 楼主| 发表于 2010-2-23 12:12:46 | 显示全部楼层
吉利/Volvo在电动车技术上有哪些建树?
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-2-27 16:47:24 | 显示全部楼层

索科尔先生:下一个“奥马哈先知”?

华尔街日报 02-27-2010 The Next Oracle of Omaha: Mr. Sokol? Move Back to Conglomerate's Industrial Roots Puts Him in Line to One Day Run Buffett's Empire By SCOTT PATTERSON WhenWarren Buffett releases his always anticipated annual shareholderletter Saturday morning, he will describe a Berkshire Hathaway Inc.that looks much more like an industrial conglomerate and less like afinancial giant than it has in more than a decade. The move back toBerkshire's roots came with Mr. Buffett's biggest deal ever, the $26billion acquisition of Burlington Northern Santa Fe railroad, finalizedthis month. The change also shines the spotlight more brightly on theman who one day could run this empire, David Sokol. David Sokol, chairman of a Berkshire unit, has vaulted the corporate ladder and won Mr. Buffett's admiration. Mr.Buffett has famously said that he sealed the name of his successor inan envelope in his office in Omaha, Neb. But Mr. Buffett will likelyhave two successors, a chief investment officer who will manage thefirm's huge investment portfolio and a chief executive who will be incharge of the roughly 80 companies in the Berkshire stable. Amongclose watchers of Berkshire, there is a growing expectation that thelatter executive will be Mr. Sokol, the 53-year-old chairman ofBerkshire unit MidAmerican Energy Holdings Co., which operates asprawling utility operation in the Midwest. Such speculation shothigher after Mr. Buffett appointed Mr. Sokol to take over flaggingjet-rental company NetJets Inc. A hard-charging corporate executivewho once recommended books about Attila the Hun to an acquaintance, Mr.Sokol ranks his staff monthly based on who he would fire first. He hasvaulted atop Berkshire's corporate ladder and won Mr. Buffett'sadmiration. "I don't think there's a record that comes close to thatof David at MidAmerican" in the utility industry, said Mr. Buffett inan interview. MidAmerican earned $1.7 billion for Berkshire in 2008,when it owned 88% of the company, up from $109 million in 2000, whenBerkshire had a slightly smaller stake in the company. RunningBerkshire, with roughly 250,000 employees, is different from managingMidAmerican, and Mr. Buffett has made the task even more dauntingrecently. The acquisition of Burlington Northern added 40,000 employeesand led to Berkshire's stock joining the Standard & Poor's500-stock index, meaning the new CEO will be beholden to a disparategroup of shareholders, rather than the loyal Buffett followers whoowned the shares before. Already, doubters have emerged who believe Mr. Sokol won't be able to pull off the deals Mr. Buffett has. "Areyou going to want to sell your company to David Sokol?" asked JeffMatthews, manager of hedge fund Ram Partners LP, an investor inBerkshire. "No one is going to brag about that." Some Berkshirewatchers speculate that Mr. Buffett has held back from naming Mr. Sokolhis successor because he remains undecided about whether he is the bestman for the job. Mr. Sokol declined to comment, and Mr. Buffett declined to comment about his choice of successor. Messrs.Buffett and Sokol have some things in common. Both live in Omaha. Bothworked as newspaper-delivery boys and as employees of small grocerystores. And both succeeded early in their careers: Mr. Buffett witha famed private investment partnership, Mr. Sokol as chief of an energycompany while still in his 20s. After graduating from the Universityof Nebraska at Omaha in 1978 with a degree in civil engineering, Mr.Sokol joined an Omaha architectural-engineering firm and later foundeda waste-to-energy company, Ogden Projects Inc., based in New Jersey. Eventually,Mr. Sokol had a dispute with Ogden's chairman, Ralph Ablon, over thecompany's investment strategy, according to Mr. Sokol's 2007self-published book on management style, "Pleased But Not Satisfied."He left the company in 1990. About a year later, he took a job aspresident of JWP Inc., a New York company with businesses ranging fromelectrical contracting to sludge removal. Months after taking the job,he began to unearth accounting improprieties. Mr. Sokol began to raiseconcerns and received late-night phone calls warning him to stop. Heeventually turned over the information at a board meeting in October1992 and resigned. He returned to Omaha and took a job as presidentof a company later named CalEnergy. Several years later, CalEnergybought MidAmerican as part of an acquisition spree. He also acquiredpricey properties, including a 120-acre farm in Northwest Omaha with ariding track, as well as three Clydesdale horses. Mr. Sokol is atireless worker, coming into the office at six in the morning andrarely vacationing. In his book, he attributes his hard work to a"driving fear of failure." Mr. Sokol entered Mr. Buffett's worldwhen MidAmerican's shares tumbled after several geothermal projects inIndonesia were delayed amid the Asian currency crisis. He becamedisillusioned with the short-term focus of public companies and beganto mull a management-led buyout. Through an intermediary, he broachedthe idea of doing a deal with Berkshire. Mr. Sokol and the otherMidAmerican managers proved to be tough bargainers. Mr. Buffett offeredto purchase a 75% stake in MidAmerican, then trading for about $27 ashare, for $35 a share. But the management committee refused. Afterseveral weeks, Mr. Buffett finally agreed to raise his bid by fivecents a share. "I said I'll pay $35.05, and you can say you got the last nickel out of me," Mr. Buffett said. AsMidAmerican grew under the Berkshire umbrella, Mr. Sokol stayed inclose touch with its day-to-day activities. In 2001, he visited itsDavenport, Iowa, customer call center, whose employees were battered bycomplaints as natural-gas prices spiked in a cold winter, and delivereda pep talk, according to an employee there at the time. He stepped down as CEO of MidAmerican in March 2008, succeeded by his long-time colleague, Greg Abel. Duringthe financial crisis, when Mr. Buffett profited greatly frominvestments in struggling companies, Mr. Sokol tried to do the same. InSeptember 2008, the energy firm Constellation Energy Group was facingcrippling financial difficulties. Mr. Sokol, after discussing the dealwith Messrs. Buffett and Abel, decided to make an offer. He placed acall to the office of Constellation's CEO, Mayo Shattuck III, accordingto Mr. Buffett. The secretary who answered explained that Mr. Shattuckwas in a board meeting and would be fired if she interrupted themeeting. "You could be fired if you don't interrupt him," Mr. Sokolsaid. He told the secretary to go into the room with a piece of papercontaining two words: David Sokol. They struck a deal, but it eventually fell apart when Constellation accepted another, far higher, offer. Mr.Sokol has also spearheaded a big push into wind energy at MidAmerican,a move he has maintained will prove not only environmentally sound butalso?more controversially?profitable. For now, Mr. Sokol is expectedto focus on NetJets, one of Mr. Buffett's poorer performinginvestments. He has said he thinks the company could return toprofitability this year. Write to Scott Patterson at scott.patterson@wsj.com
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-2-27 16:50:38 | 显示全部楼层
对。大城市用电动车代替燃油车,还会让大家活长点。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-3-2 06:29:47 | 显示全部楼层
BYD与奔驰将成立技术合资企业,共同开发面向中国市场的电动车:

DaimlerAG Signs Memorandum of Understanding with BYDCompany Limited toEstablish a Technology Partnership for ElectricVehicles in China

-- Technology partnership for a new electric vehicle suited to the Chinese market -- New brand to be created by Daimler and BYD --Dr.Dieter Zetsche, Chairman of the Board of Management of Daimler AG:"Wecontinue to push ahead as a global leader in electricmobility.Daimler's know-how in electric vehicle architecture andBYD'sexcellence in battery technology and e-drive systems are aperfectmatch." -- Mr. Wang Chuanfu, Chairman and President of BYDCompanyLimited: "This technology partnership creates a win-win businessmodelwith complimentary competences. We are very excited aboutthisopportunity to work together with Daimler, the inventor oftheautomobile."

<div class="mod provider-attribution"> Press Release Source: Daimler Corporate Communications On Monday March 1, 2010, 1:49 pm EST </div> STUTTGART, Germany and HONG KONG March 1/PRNewswire-FirstCall/-- Daimler AG (stock ticker symbol: DAI) todaysigned a Memorandum ofUnderstanding (MoU) with BYD Company Limited(1211.HK) to enter into acomprehensive technology partnership for thedevelopment of electricvehicles for China.

(Logo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20080409/NYW017LOGO )

Undertheagreement, Daimler and BYD intend to develop a new electricvehiclespecific to the requirements of the Chinese market. The vehiclewill bemarketed under a new brand jointly created and owned by DaimlerandBYD. In addition, a common technology center will be established in China to develop, design and test this electric vehicle.

"Withthisannouncement, we continue to push ahead as a global leader inelectricmobility. Daimler's know-how in electric vehicle architectureand BYD'sexcellence in battery technology and e-drive systems are aperfectmatch. Thus, we will be able to participate in the potentialgrowth ofelectric mobility in China, currently the largest auto market of the world", said Dr. Dieter Zetsche, Chairman of the Board of Management of Daimler AG and head of Mercedes-Benz Cars.

"Withthistechnology partnership, we have created a win-win business modelwithcomplimentary competences. We are very excited about thisopportunityto work together with Daimler, the inventor of theautomobile", said Mr.Wang Chuanfu, Chairman and President of BYDCompany Limited.

Daimleris a leader in developing automotivearchitectures for zero-emissionsdriving. The company recently launchedthe smart electric drive and in2010 will introduce an all-electricversion of the Mercedes-BenzA-Class.

"Electric vehicles are especially well-suited for urban driving. With its many metropolitan areas, Chinahasthe potential to be among the world's largest markets forzero-emissionvehicles. Daimler and BYD will accelerate the growth ofelectricmobility in China", jointly stated Chairman Wang and Dr. Zetsche.

BYD is China'sleadingmanufacturer in developing advanced battery technology, a fieldit hasinvested in since 1995. The company has enjoyed rapid growthafterentering the automotive sector in 2003. It is the fastestgrowingChinese automotive manufacturer. BYD introduced its F3DMdual-modehybrid electric vehicle to the world in December 2008. Soon, the company will officially launch the e6, a pure electric vehicle.

The companies' understanding also includes further discussions on additional business opportunities of mutual interests.

Further information on Daimler is available on the internet at: http://media.daimler.com

Thisdocumentcontains forward-looking statements that reflect our currentviews aboutfuture events. The words "anticipate," "assume," "believe,""estimate,""expect," "intend," "may," "plan," "project," "should" andsimilarexpressions are used to identify forward-looking statements.Thesestatements are subject to many risks and uncertainties, includinga lackof or a considerable delay in improvement or a furtherdeterioration ofglobal economic conditions; a continuation orworsening of the tensesituation in the credit and financial markets,which could result inongoing high borrowing costs or limit our fundingflexibility; changesin currency exchange rates and interest rates; theintroduction ofcompeting, fuel-efficient products and the possiblelack of acceptanceof our products or services, which may limit ourability to adequatelyutilize our production capacities or raiseprices; price increases infuel, raw materials and precious metals;disruption of production due toshortages of materials, labor strikes,or supplier insolvencies; afurther decline in resale prices of usedvehicles; the effectiveimplementation of cost-reduction andefficiency-optimization programs atall of our segments, including therepositioning of our truck activitiesin the NAFTA region and in Asia;thebusiness outlook of companies in which we hold an equity interest,mostnotably EADS; changes in laws, regulations and governmentpolicies,particularly those relating to vehicle emissions, fueleconomy andsafety; the resolution of pending governmentalinvestigations and theoutcome of pending or threatened future legalproceedings; and otherrisks and uncertainties, some of which wedescribe under the heading"Risk Report" in Daimler's most recentAnnual Report and under theheadings "Risk Factors" and "LegalProceedings" in Daimler's most recentAnnual Report on Form 20-F filedwith the Securities and ExchangeCommission. If any of these risks anduncertainties materialize, or ifthe assumptions underlying any of ourforward-looking statements proveincorrect, then our actual results maybe materially different fromthose we express or imply by suchstatements. We do not intend or assumeany obligation to update theseforward-looking statements. Anyforward-looking statement speaks onlyas of the date on which it ismade.

About Daimler

DaimlerAG is one of theworld's most successful automotive companies. With itsdivisionsMercedes-Benz Cars, Daimler Trucks, Mercedes-Benz Vans,Daimler Busesand Daimler Financial Services, the Daimler Group is oneof the biggestproducers of premium cars and the world's biggestmanufacturer ofcommercial vehicles with a global reach. DaimlerFinancial Servicesprovides its customers with a full range ofautomotive financialservices including financing, leasing, insuranceand fleet management.

The company's founders, Gottlieb Daimler and Carl Benz,madehistory with the invention of the automobile in the year 1886. Asanautomotive pioneer, Daimler continues to shape the future ofmobility.The Group applies innovative and green technologies toproduce safe andsuperior vehicles which fascinate and delight itscustomers. With thedevelopment of alternative drive systems, Daimleris the only vehicleproducer investing in hybrid drive, electric motorsand fuel-cellsystems, with the goal of achieving emission-freemobility in the longterm. This is just one example of how Daimlerwillingly accepts thechallenge of meeting its responsibility towardssociety and theenvironment.

Daimler sells its vehicles andservices in nearlyall the countries of the world and has productionfacilities on fivecontinents. Its current brand portfolio includes, inaddition to theworld's most valuable automotive brand, Mercedes-Benz,the brands smart,Maybach, Freightliner, Western Star, Fuso, Setra,Orion and Thomas BuiltBuses. The company is listed on the stockexchanges of Frankfurt, New York and Stuttgart(stockexchange symbol DAI). In 2009, the Group sold 1.6 millionvehicles andemployed a workforce of more than 256,000 people; revenuetotaled euro 78.9 billion and EBIT amounted minus euro 1.5 billion.

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发表于 2010-2-23 13:25:04 | 显示全部楼层
油很贵,且中国是贫油富煤的国家,中国搞电动车应该大有前途。
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发表于 2010-3-2 23:29:04 | 显示全部楼层

技术上满般配的。但我担心这两家的行事风格会尿不到一壶。笨死搞豪华车的,大手大脚贯了,吃不了攻克中国市场的苦。BYD贫苦人家出身,能吃苦。后者经不起也会忍受不了笨死的败家子作风。

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发表于 2010-3-7 22:23:03 | 显示全部楼层

郎说的不是没有一点道理。不过,我的理解:1。一个个的燃油车是分散的二氧化碳排放器,而电厂是一个集中的排放器。处理集中的排放总归比分散的容易;2。车辆多集中在人口稠密的城市。而电厂多远离城市,对人类的危害没有那么直接和严重。当然,更远期的解决还得依赖可再生能源。

请教众网友几个问题:

1. 充电可否象现在加油这样立等可走?

2. 如果不行,是不是只能靠更换电池?

3. 如果更换电池,可以在自家完成,还是必须到一个专业的场所?

4. 这个场所应该是哪里?加油站转型的更换站还是停车场,或者有大型停车位的商业场所如超市,机场等。

如果我们能搞清楚这个产业模式,那么我们不光可以投资电动车制造厂家,还可以对将来的充电和更换场所提前投资布局。

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发表于 2010-3-8 11:24:38 | 显示全部楼层
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原文由 highlander 发表于 2010-3-8 10:03:53 :
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BYD研发了一个自动化生产线,正在试验调试。我认为成功可能性高于80%。


这么说首先还未有电池产品出来,性能如何还未知。

既然H兄如此肯定,那么相关的技术指标以及价格等等能否先透露一些?

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