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股神巴菲特18亿入股比亚迪股份

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发表于 2010-3-23 14:50:43 | 显示全部楼层

我持有BYD,并不十分的乐观。

1、飞机、汽车的出现都给人类的生活方式带来改变,但给投资者的回报似乎不多,电动车会有奇迹吗?

2、电动车环保只是伪概念,制造电池及后续用电所造成的污染远远高于油车。

3、太阳能我认为也是伪环保,制造一块电板用电量大于电板终生发电量。

4、BYD造车风格与日系相似,如果选择投资油车的话,我选奇瑞。

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兄弟!你知道奇瑞和比亚迪产品的毛利润率和净利润率吗?比亚迪是目前汽车业净利润率最高的。奇瑞几乎快不赚钱了。别以为比亚迪汽车的价格低,其实她是最有资格大价格战的。

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发表于 2010-3-29 01:41:57 | 显示全部楼层

长城汽车年报出来了,主营利润增长60%。目前20倍市盈率。净利润率=7%。未来一年的上涨空间50-100%。

比亚迪,我的估算:去掉手机、电池的利润12亿,就是27亿/210亿=12%的净利润率。非常的有竞争力。未来一年的上涨空间35-80%。

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 楼主| 发表于 2010-3-30 03:48:46 | 显示全部楼层
不用客气。 我上次看Yahoo的报表是去年的事。记得Yahoo有阿里巴巴集团40%以上的股份。阿里巴巴集团拥有淘宝,支付宝,1688等。另外,Yahoo还有Yahoo! Japan34%的股份。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-3-30 10:48:22 | 显示全部楼层
比亚迪F3DM低碳版3月29日上市 比亚迪官方近日宣布,全新科技的F3DM低碳版双模电动车即将于3月29日在深圳上市。从官方曝光的图片可以看出,该车搭载了全新的车顶太阳能电池充电系统,这个与普通版的F3DM最大的区别。此外,新上市的F3DM低碳版还将对外观做部分改动,并首次面向个人销售。预计新车价格在16万左右,比普通版F3DM略高。   技术升级 太阳能电池板抢眼   F3DM低碳版的最大亮点是对“低碳”概念的多角度诠释。除了强化的全球领先的DM双模系统和铁电池技术外,F3DM低碳版加装的车顶太阳能电池充电系统,不仅美观环保,而且也为驱动车辆提供了能量来源。这是一块类似于全景天窗的太阳能电池板,通过吸收的太阳能输出为低压电,低压电经升压转换为高压电,并将能量储存在铁电池中。   从F3DM低碳版可以感受到比亚迪无与伦比的储能和快充技术,而这一点,也正是股神巴菲特青睐比亚迪的重要原因。此外,外观上,比较明显的改动是尾灯从F3的红色灯壳变成了透明的晶钻式设计;车头进气栅也更为时尚,带DM标识黑色炫酷水箱格栅会有别于普通车型。车身两侧均增加侧群板,改善空气动力性,车辆行驶更平稳。   生当逢时 新能源汽车时代来临   两会期间,新能源产业的发展成为讨论焦点,国家对低碳经济的重视程度也与日俱增。 工信部部长李毅中近日表示,对新能源车的补贴政策正在积极的拟定中,个人购置补贴预计可达6万元左右。作为首批入选国家新能源汽车推荐目录的唯一轿车,F3DM低碳版的节能技术处于世界领先水平,必然在未来得到更多青睐。   与此同时,全国目前正展开一场电动汽车充电站的建设热潮。以深圳为代表的各大城市正加紧建设,国家电网、南方电网、石油三巨头都在积极行动,国内新能源车的崛起大势已然清晰。一场新能源汽车争夺战已经全面打响,F3DM在此浪潮中已经占得先机。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-4-3 14:47:37 | 显示全部楼层
雅虎现市值为228亿美元。 alibaba.com现市值为792亿港币, 这部分是基本已反映在雅虎资产里了。 alibaba集团的其他资产没有充分反映出来。属于隐性资产。做一个很粗略的估计: 假设alibaba集团确实完全控股淘宝,支付宝等,算雅虎占40%。我们乐观点,给这部分一个腾讯的市值,362亿美元。所以雅虎的升值潜力: 362X0.4/228=64% 我同意兄的看法,雅虎升值潜力一般。当然,在这个价位上,风险很小。 [此帖子已被 highlander 在 2010-4-3 14:49:33 编辑过]
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发表于 2010-3-29 20:30:07 | 显示全部楼层
记得highlander以前买过美股,想请教highlander一下,您是在哪里开的户?
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-4-1 10:24:29 | 显示全部楼层
淘宝的股权的事,对糊涂虫朋友蛮重要的,不妨详细谈谈。 Yahoo2008年年报的有关资料: Note 4 INVESTMENTS IN EQUITY INTERESTS As of December 31, investments in equity interests consisted of the following (dollars in thousands): 2007 2008 Percent Ownership of Common Stock Alibaba Group . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $1,440,278 $2,216,659 44% Alibaba.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,804 51,999 1% Yahoo! Japan . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 636,164 905,672 34% Other . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,671 3,115 Total . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2,180,917 $3,177,445 Equity Investment in Alibaba Group. On October 23, 2005, the Company acquired approximately 46 percent of the outstanding common stock of Alibaba Group Holding Limited (“Alibaba Group”), which represented approximately 40 percent on a fully diluted basis, in exchange for $1.0 billion in cash, the contribution of the Company’s China-based businesses, including 3721 Network Software Company Limited (“Yahoo! China”), and direct transaction costs of $8 million. Pursuant to the terms of a shareholder agreement, the Company has an approximate 35 percent voting interest in Alibaba Group, with the remainder of its voting rights subject to a voting agreement with Alibaba Group management. Other investors in Alibaba Group include SOFTBANK. Alibaba Group is a privately-held company. Through its investment in Alibaba Group, the Company hascombined its search capabilities with Alibaba Group’s leading online marketplace and online payment system and Alibaba Group’s strong local presence, expertise, and vision in the China market. These factors contributed to a purchase price in excess of the Company’s share of the fair value of Alibaba Group’s net tangible and intangible assets acquired resulting in goodwill. The investment in Alibaba Group is being accounted for using the equity method, and the total investment, including net tangible assets, identifiable intangible assets and goodwill, is classified as part of investments in equity interests on the Company’s consolidated balance sheets. The Company records its share of the results of Alibaba Group and any related amortization expense, one quarter in arrears, within earnings in equity interests in the consolidated statements of income. The Company’s initial purchase price was based on acquiring a 40 percent equity interest in Alibaba Group on a fully diluted basis; however, the Company acquired a 46 percent interest based on outstanding shares. In allocating the initial excess of the carrying value of the investment in Alibaba Group over its proportionate share of the net assets of Alibaba Group, the Company allocated a portion of the excess to goodwill to account for the estimated reductions in the carrying value of the investment in Alibaba that may occur as the Company’s equity interest is diluted to 40 percent. As of December 31, 2008, the Company’s ownership interest in Alibaba Group was approximately 44 percent compared to 43 percent as of December 31, 2007. The 1 percent increase is due to an increase in ownership interest resulting from the exchange of certain Alibaba Group shares previously held by employees for shares in Alibaba.com Limited, the business-to-business e-commerce subsidiary of Alibaba Group, (“Alibaba.com”), partly offset by a decrease in ownership interest resulting from the exercise of Alibaba Group’s employee stock options. In the initial public offering (“IPO”) of Alibaba.com on November 6, 2007, Alibaba Group sold an approximate 27 percent interest in Alibaba.com through the issuance of new Alibaba.com shares, the sale of previously held shares in Alibaba.com, and the exchange of certain Alibaba Group shares previously held by Alibaba Group employees for shares in Alibaba.com, resulting in a gain on disposal of interests in Alibaba.com. Accordingly, in the first quarter of 2008, the Company recorded a non-cash gain of $401 million, net of tax, within earnings in equity interests representing the Company’s share of Alibaba Group’s gain. [此帖子已被 highlander 在 2010-4-1 10:36:31 编辑过]
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发表于 2010-4-2 00:35:30 | 显示全部楼层
阿里巴巴的股权只占雅虎资产的一小部分。只此一条理由就没有必要考虑雅虎。不过实在佩服兄的英文,我去欧洲就会说:比尔---啤酒的意思。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-4-3 14:53:41 | 显示全部楼层
嗯,英文就一工具,只要花时间,都能学会的。 比尔---啤酒 盖兹---大门的意思。 这样挺好
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发表于 2010-4-13 16:44:06 | 显示全部楼层

3月份销量统计公布,本土汽车企业“黑马”比亚迪,继续一黑到底。不仅一举闯进单月销量排行前三甲(仅次于上海大众和上海通用),而且以单月销量超过奇瑞和吉利30000辆的巨大优势,将这两个本土自主品牌企业的“先行者”,远远地甩在后面。

一心要当中国自主品牌汽车行业旗手的比亚迪,这一次终于如愿。

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