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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-20 13:41:27 | 显示全部楼层

郭台铭炮轰比亚迪窃取资料 批巴菲特看走眼

2009年04月17日10:03

  4月17日消息,据台湾媒体报道,昨日鸿海昨日举行股东大会。鸿海董事长郭台铭表示,鸿海今年35岁,正值壮年,最少还有十年的黄金期。

  过去,鸿海总以营收年成长三成当做营运目标,郭台铭昨天说,他今年下达给各事业单位的目标,仍然是成长三成。

  轰比亚迪 批股神看走眼

鸿海旗下富士康与中国电子代工厂比亚迪侵权官司已缠讼超过三年,鸿海董事长郭台铭昨日再度开炮,不仅炮轰比亚迪,就连对去年底宣布入股比亚迪的股神巴菲特都不放过,他认为股神这回看走眼、时间会证明一切。

  郭台铭昨天连续第二年在鸿海股东会上针对死对头比亚迪开炮,他认为,比亚迪不当窃取富士康的商业机密,是偷窃行为。他昨天甚至自己准备投影片,秀出鸿海员工尚未离职前,就将公司机密以电子邮件方式传送给比亚迪总裁王传福的证据,显然是有备而来。

  富士康与比亚迪侵权官司缠讼超过三年,至今没有结果。郭台铭昨天直指,因为王传福担任深圳市人大代表,对当地法官具有投票权,使富士康在诉讼中居于下风。

  自嘲像臭豆腐

  鸿海去年股价大跌,套牢一堆投资人,郭台铭昨天自嘲:“有一天到士林夜市吃臭豆腐,结果一位股东跑来告诉我,他以200元高价买进鸿海,结果惨遭套牢,顿时,我觉得自己比臭豆腐还臭。”

  为此,郭台铭决心要替股东把鸿海股价赢回来。原本已打算退休享清福的他,重新披上战袍,展开每天工作16个小时的超人生活,就连出国考察都是利用休假时间。

  昨天股东会结束后,郭董又是马不停蹄,晚上下班后就要赶赴士林招待远从山西来的200名参访贵客,一同“乃(台语,逛的意思)夜市”。

  郭台铭:鸿海股价回来才退休

  鸿海股价从去年初的200元高点到年底时一度跌落54元,许多投资人惨遭套牢。鸿海董事长郭台铭昨(16)日在股东常会上对股东表示歉意,并誓言:“鸿海股价回来,才会退休。”

  鸿海昨天股东会也响应小股东要求,通过临时提案,每股增派0.3元现金股息,以回馈股东。

 鸿海昨天举行股东会,有别于往年出席者多为投资机构的专业法人,不少高龄80多岁的老先生、老太太股东昨天亲自到股东会现场,诉说自己将大笔退休金投资鸿海股票,却惨遭套牢的遭遇。

  对此,昨天股东会一开场,郭台铭就亲自向股东们致歉,表示去年底的金融海啸来得太突然,以致鸿海去年赚钱没有如想象的那么多。为了对抗这波经济恶水,他已重被战袍,恢复每天工作16个小时的生活。

  曾对股东拍胸脯保证“买鸿海股票绝对不会亏钱”的郭台铭,昨天再度展现气魄,誓言:“鸿海股价回来,才会退休。”相较去年他在股东会上大谈接棒布局,启动“永营计划”,并开办“鸿海大学”培养鸿海接班人,如今交班计划已经搁置。

  鸿海去年每股纯益7.44元,原本每股拟配发股票股利1.5元、现金股息0.8元,合计2.3元,创下近15年来最低,配股率只有30.9%。昨天引发阿土伯等小股东串联要求加发股利。

  郭台铭解释,鸿海的股利政策是“原汁鸡汤”,之所以保留现金,是考虑公司还有很多投资、并购与成长的机会。

  不过,为了回馈股东,郭台铭最后还是顺应民意,现场决定每股增派0.3元现金股息,使现金股息提高到1.1元、股票股利则维持1.5元不变,合计股利提高为2.6元。受此激励,鸿海昨天上涨0.8元,收89.5元;鸿准、群创、建汉、广宇等鸿海家族也涨多跌少。

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-7 17:14:52 | 显示全部楼层
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原文由 掷铜板的人 发表于 2009-5-7 9:55:58 :
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原文由 highlander 发表于 2009-5-7 9:38:44 :

3万五千人, 去年是3万二千人。

会址在一室内体育场,Qwest Center


你应该讲点细节、花絮或者心得给兄弟们品位一下呀!翘首以盼中。。。
对不起,铜板兄弟,现实在没时间。过一两天吧。
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发表于 2009-5-8 23:55:48 | 显示全部楼层
老巴太神奇了。。。这只股又三倍了。。。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-7 09:38:44 | 显示全部楼层

3万五千人, 去年是3万二千人。

会址在一室内体育场,Qwest Center

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-10 16:23:16 | 显示全部楼层

铜板兄弟, 我回来啦:

这次去主要是去调研,试驾比亚迪的电动车,并看看其管理层。

1. 奥马哈人口大约40万, Nebraska最大的城市/商业中心,大概相当于洛阳在中国的地位吧。

2. 当地宾馆平时客人不多,但每次股东大会总是爆满。这次有一华为朋友正好在美国,听说此事后很想去,还好我有客票,但临时订不到旅馆,只能与我挤在一个房间。

3. 会址在一室内体育场,Qwest Center,其主馆能容纳18000人,其余17000人在体育场内的各分会场看电视。

4. 52日奥马哈阳光高照。早上7点会场开门,排队进场时人很多,所以安排了表演,牛仔英雄救美之类的,呵呵。830年会电影开始,930年会正式开始,巴菲特与芒格座在主席台上,一边吃See’s的巧克力一边喝可乐,回答股东提问,主要是公司投资情况,经济形势,也有不少是问如何才能成为投资家的。有一来自纽约的股东问为何公司偏离原则,投机于比亚迪?芒格回答投比亚迪不是投机,比亚迪简直就是一奇迹!我怀疑该纽约客可能是对冲基金派来的,故意激怒巴菲特/芒格好借机出货,以赚快钱。否则比亚迪这么一个一目了然的,安全边际极大,成长空间极大的大白马,真会有人会糊涂至此?

5. 中午休息,1230PM大会继续,300PM结束。然后是董事会开会,如巴菲特,芒格,盖兹等。提名新董事。。。

6. 3点后去展厅,主要是仔细看了比亚迪E6F3DM。比亚迪共派了5个人参会,包括王传福。问了王总几个电池方面的问题。比亚迪展位人山人海,车的质量比我想象的好很多。感觉比亚迪国际化方面比华为差得还很远,有些参展同志英语还不能与人交流,我只好帮他们客串了一回翻译,也尽了回股东的义务吧:)

7. 没机会试驾比亚迪的电动车。巴菲特,芒格,盖兹等说他们都开过, 感觉还不错。当然,他们只是试驾一会儿,能否真正商业化并赚钱,须经严格测试。总之我并不完全放心。

8. 晚上及53日是活动,吃喝玩乐交朋友,呵呵。。。

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-6 11:42:38 | 显示全部楼层

谢谢tonechen转载!

周末去奥马哈参加伯克希尔股东大会,发现85岁的芒格头脑依然非常清醒,只是说话音量不够。巴老身体情况则是非常好。

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发表于 2009-5-5 22:13:54 | 显示全部楼层

曹景行:巴菲特若让中国电动车领先世界将功德无量

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巴菲特不仅看到了未来一代的汽车,实际上他正坐在司机座位上。为什么他会投资给一个不起眼的中国电动车公司并相信这家公司的首席执行官?不是开玩笑,这个CEO敢喝下自己充电电池的电池液。4月27日出版最新一期《财富》杂志将刊登Marc Gunther“巴菲特掌舵”一文,讲述了巴菲特为何数次违反了自己的投资原则、投资比亚迪的前因后果。

在收购比亚迪股份一事上,巴菲特数次违反了自己的投资原则。“我对手机或者电池一窍不通,”他坦承:“我也不懂得汽车原理。”但他补充说,“查理.芒格和索科尔都是聪明的家伙,他们理解这些。而且毫无疑问,1995年以来比亚迪取得的成就确实了不起”。另外一件事令他更加确认这项投资。伯克希尔哈撒韦公司最初试图收购比亚迪25%的股份,但王传福不同意,他想要的是和巴菲特合作,来加强他自己的品牌并打开美国市场。王传福不愿意卖出超过10%的股份。“这是个不想卖出自己公司的人,”巴菲特说:“这是个好现象。”

“当第一次参观比亚迪工厂时,我感到非常震惊,”美林证券驻香港的技术分析师丹尼尔.金说。他曾经参观过日本和韩国的全自动化生产线。“而(比亚迪)是一个完全不同的商业模式”他说。为了控制质量,比亚迪把每一项工作分解成基本的任务单元并实施严格的检验规程。根据哈佛商学院对比亚迪的个案研究,到2002年,在全部三个充电电池技术领域(锂离子电池,镍镉和镍氢电池),比亚迪已成为中国最大、全球前四大制造商之一。

比亚迪汽车有5000名汽车工程师和同等数量的电池工程师,全部工程师都通过了公司的培训项目(淘汰率40%),绝大多数人都生活在深圳总部的15栋有18层高的黄色公寓楼里。资历浅的工程师算上福利一个月收入不到600美元。王传福说,全部的工程师毕业于中国最好的大学,“他们都是出类拔萃的......他们都工作刻苦,可以和任何人竞争”。“基本上,这些人一星期七天,每天24小时做的就是,呼吸,吃饭,思考,工作,”一名美国高管在研究比亚迪的工作模式后发出感言。同绝大多数汽车制造商不同,比亚迪自己制造汽车的几乎全部配件--不仅是车体、引擎,还有空调,灯具,安全带,安全气囊,以及电子配件。“这让其它人难以同我们竞争,”王传福说:“如果是在日本和美国,这么做我们承担不起。”

至于积累财富?“我不感兴趣,”王传福说。他确实没有非常奢华的生活方式。2008年,他的收入是26.5万美元,他和其它工程师一样,住在比亚迪公寓楼中。他唯一的奢侈品拥有是一辆奔驰和雷克萨斯汽车,这两辆车存在的一个实际目的是:他可以把发动机拆下来,研究其工作原理。在美国访问期间,他曾经试图拆下载着他到处走走的一辆丰田车的座椅来研究下车的结构。比亚迪上市后,王传福做了一项非同寻常的决定:他把自己手上的大约15%股份分发给比亚迪公司里大约20位高管和工程师。他仍然拥有大约28%的股份,价值约10亿美元。

公司本身也很节俭。直到最近,管理层出差一直搭乘经济舱。比亚迪一位高管对Marc Gunthe说,福特08年亏损数十亿美元,却仍在巴黎汽车展期间在盛大的乔治五世酒店举办豪华派对,他对此感到非常震惊。相比之下,比亚迪高层上次前往底特律汽车展时,他们租住的是郊区的民房,以节省住酒店的开支。

注意控制成本使得比亚迪在各个业务领域都能赚钱。尽管规模很小,但任何一个比亚迪的业务部门--电池、手机配件以及汽车--在2008年都是盈利的。总体而言,净利润约为1.87亿美元。在香港交易所上市的比亚迪目前的市值约为38亿美元。比福特汽车4月初的70亿市值要小,但超过通用汽车公司(13亿美元)。

2008年夏天,大卫.索科尔参观比亚迪时,王传福带他到一个电池工厂并解释说,比亚迪希望自己制造的电池可以100%回收利用。为此,该公司已开发出一种无毒电解质液。为了强调这一点,王传福把电池液倒进玻璃杯中喝下,“不好喝,”他说,然后让索科尔也尝一尝。索科尔礼貌的拒绝。但他得到了清楚的讯息。“王传福的工作焦点是,我们是否能帮助解决环境问题,我们的技术不能再创造新的环境问题,”索科尔说。

现在最大的问题是制造成本昂贵,其中最大的单一成本是电池。生产安全、可靠、持久并能快速充电的汽车电池是一项复杂和昂贵的事业。比亚迪声称已经在磷酸铁锂离子电池技术方面取得突破性进展,但目前还没有人能证实所称确实。有人怀疑说,比亚迪不可能制造出比竞争对手性能更强大、价格又更便宜的电池。新加坡野村证券公司的分析师Chitra Gopal一直关注比亚迪的进展。他说,比亚迪投注“用全新的技术,实现大规模生产以降低成本的尝试迄今还没有结果。”

电动车网站“EV世界”的出版商和主编威廉.摩尔指出:比亚迪“需要说服别人的是,他们销售的是一种可靠、耐用、高质量的汽车”。“他们的汽车性能远远落后于丰田,这是肯定的,”索科尔坦言。

比亚迪尚未决定是否将大举进入美国市场。现在是比亚迪董事会一员的索科尔说,比亚迪可能发展成为成全球车厂的电池供应商。但一些美国人却急于同比亚迪做生意。《财富》杂志访问比亚迪公司的第二天,俄勒冈州州长Ted Kulongoski抵达比亚迪,试驾了电动车后,并敦请公司通过波特兰港把电动车进口美国。

“比亚迪为什么会遥遥领先?”巴菲特通过翻译问王传福。“我们公司是懂行的人在做事,”王传福回答说。巴菲特又问比亚迪将如何保持其领先优势。“我们永远,永远不会停下休息,”王传福说。巴菲特可能并不了解电池或汽车,也不懂中国话。但是,发动汽车是怎么回事、意味着什么,是不需要翻译的。

老曹对巴菲特从来没有兴趣,只有这次除外。中国的电动汽车如果能够领先世界,实在是功德无量。

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一个月两个董事会,先是台湾大富豪富士康郭董发飙,大批比亚迪就会剽窃,看来比亚迪把老郭打得比较惨,老郭急了;然后是巴菲特老先生对着3.5万股东信徒放话,比亚迪是个小公司,但是有大野心,这个公司不成功才怪呢。后悔啊,当初没能买下更多的股份。我想,王传福一定乐了,联美抗日,先把学日本人的台湾人打趴下,这步棋又走对了,呵呵。

问:富士康与比亚迪的官司缠讼超过三年,你的看法?

  答:比亚迪的案子,我们受到很多委屈,为什么我们选择到香港打官司,因为在深圳打不赢,比亚迪总裁王传福是深圳人大常委,有法官任命权,就像到赌城去,他一面跟你赌、一边又自己做庄。

  论竞争力,在我这块领域,模具、IT等产业相关,他绝对不是我的竞争对手,我也不把他当竞争对手,因为若把窃盗当对手,难道我也要去偷窃?他在我的模具等众多产业领域中,大概连我的十分之一都不到,如果我输了,我就从这里跳下去(指着后面的落地窗)。

  比亚迪原本做电池,几年前,王传福来找我,希望鸿海帮他做电池壳,我还带他参观工厂,结果他看到鸿海赚钱,就挖走我们的人,我们总共被挖走400多个干部,偷走上万份文件。

  那时候富士康会被挖角,其实是因为大陆员工不能像台湾员工一样领股票分红,这点直到最近才开放。

  问:有人戏称比亚迪是山寨版的富士康,你怎么看?

  答:山寨顶多只是抄袭,学你的外观;有人查,他会收起来、躲躲藏藏,不敢公然。但比亚迪不只是抄袭、是偷窃。他派商业间谍,偷窃我们的资料,然后湮灭证据。

  问:富士康掌握了哪些证据?

  答:我们有很多证据,但因为香港的官司还在进行中,很多不便公开。因为这个案子,之前已有四个富士康离职员工被判刑,我们透过阅卷拿到一些资料,这些是可以公开(他亲自展示文件档案)。

  富士康的前员工柳相军,公司花了好多钱栽培,结果在2005年还未离职前,就有比亚迪的电子信箱,还把富士康内部的财务资料传送给王传福。

  比亚迪一看,就知道我们哪些产品赚钱,就从那里切进去。2006年我们发现不对,因为我们每次报价,他都刚好比我们低一点。

  另外,中国法院也找到比亚迪公司内部的电子邮件,比亚迪法务主管承认内部发现有富士康的商业秘密,还有法务人员以电子邮件通知柳相军要删除犯罪证据。

  罪证确凿,但最可恶的是,员工背黑锅,王传福却死不认错,全部推说那是员工个人行为,与公司无关。

  问:股神巴菲特去年宣布投资比亚迪,外界解读是比亚迪的有利背书,你怎么看?

  答:世界没有什么股神,我也请小股东们相信,没有什么巴菲特加持这回事,不要听到巴菲特的名字,就吓呆了。

  趁着巴菲特这两天参加伯克希尔哈撒韦股东年会,我有三个问题想要请教他,如果他不回答,我明年一定买一、二股伯克希尔股票,飞到美国亲自请教。

  我想请问巴非特,不是标榜自己只投资有诚信、长期经营的公司吗,为何投资偷窃富士康商业机密的比亚迪?巴菲特敢不敢开比亚迪的电动、汽油双模车子亲自上下班呢?

巴菲特股东大会

巴菲特的最佳搭档芒格在伯克希尔股东大会上称:我知道人们普遍认为沃伦和我(投资比亚迪)看起来是疯了,但我不认为是这样。你看到比亚迪的汽车,就会明白这是什么样的一种汽车。我认为他们做出的一切:汽车、玻璃、轮胎……都是非常出色的,这非同一般。我认为对于伯克希尔来说,与比亚迪的合作是一项非常重要的合作。比亚迪可能是一个小公司,但是它有很大的野心。如果比亚迪不成功,我将非常惊讶。关于比亚迪的发展和合作,我感到有生以来最大的荣幸。

芒格的意见曾把伯克希尔推向了一些出人意料的投资方向。几年前,芒格听说了中国一家名不见经传的电池和汽车生产商比亚迪股份有限公司(BYD Inc.),这家公司希望能开发出一种廉价、实用的电动轿车。

巴菲特称:比亚迪是查理最后一年的大手笔,还有收购爱尔兰银行。所以,他是一个胜利者。

巴菲特还在大会上表示:当前的通货膨胀是必然的。纳税人不去消费导致了政府不得不去刺激消费,而且纳税人手里持有大量的美元,这就和投资国债一样,导致了当前消费不振的局面。

巴菲特认为,如果消费者的消费需求旺盛,那么就会对经济增长产生积极的影响。而防止通货膨胀最好的办法就是“赚钱能力”,第二个好的办法是“美好的经济环境”。

下面为芒格其人其事,披露了他为何坚决要投资比亚迪的细节。

芒格其人其事

虽然现年85岁的芒格和现年78岁的巴菲特经常相互沟通想法并就公司的大部分交易彼此交换意见,但两人的行事风格还是有所不同。芒格说话简洁明了,巴菲特则显得??嗦嗦。芒格倾向于共和党,而巴菲特则倾向民主党。芒格愿意出高价收购企业,巴菲特则喜欢那些没有投资风险的超廉价股。

芒格的意见曾把伯克希尔推向了一些出人意料的投资方向。几年前,芒格听说了中国一家名不见经传的电池和汽车生产商比亚迪股份有限公司(BYD Inc.),这家公司希望能开发出一种廉价、实用的电动轿车。

中国的科技企业可与那些伯克希尔投资过的中国制鞋和内衣企业截然不同。但芒格却对投资比亚迪很热心,他对比亚迪的老板王传福比对比亚迪的技术更感兴趣。芒格说,王传福有可能成为有史以来最重要的生意人之一。

虽然巴菲特一开始对投资比亚迪持怀疑态度,但芒格却坚持要投。伯克希尔旗下公用事业公司MidAmerican Energy Holdings Co.的董事长大卫?索科尔(David Sokol)专程去考察了比亚迪在中国的工厂,他也赞同芒格的判断。去年,MidAmerican斥资2.3亿美元购买了比亚迪10%的股份。

巴菲特说,投资比亚迪是芒格的主意。他说,当芒格遇到天才,并且看到此人把企业经营得不错时,他就由衷地感到高兴。

芒格还是伯克希尔2006年向以色列金属切削工具生产商Iscar Metalworking Cos.投资40亿美元的支持者。在当时,这可不是一笔小数目,特别是鉴于巴菲特对投资廉价企业的偏好。芒格却向自己的老搭档保证说,Iscar值这笔钱。

这项交易为伯克希尔在美国以外的其他一些大手笔投资铺平了道路。上述两项投资的效益如何伯克希尔未予公布。

巴菲特和芒格都认为美国的金融体系需要变革,都对这一体系以往的过分之举进行了指责。芒格说,一些人仅仅因为敢于大量举债就获得了高得惊人的报酬。这两人一直在反复提醒人们注意滥用杠杆和衍生品造成的系统性风险。

芒格认为,监管机构可以严格限制银行能够使用的杠杆(即借款)数额。这将压低华尔街公司的薪酬,因为交易员将不能再进行这么大的杠杆化投资。这可能对伯克希尔有利,该公司截至2008年年底共有243亿美元现金储备。他说,这样就会有新的游戏规则,对我们这样的人来说,这会很有意思。

周六的会议是在伯克希尔经历它历史上最糟糕的一年后召开的。去年该公司的每股账面价值缩水了9.6%。这是巴菲特1965年接手这家公司以来的最大跌幅。当时该公司是位于东海岸的一家纺织品企业,巴菲特把它转变成了一个投资王国。自去年9月份以来,伯克希尔的股价下跌了36%。

这两位投资者称,他们预计伯克希尔不久后将会恢复状态,他们还会继续合作。每周他们至少会在各自的办公室通一两次电话──巴菲特在奥马哈,芒格在加州帕萨迪纳。

巴菲特说,芒格可能比许多行业的业内人士更了解这些业务的本质,他比我看到的任何人都能更快抓住要点。

芒格在奥马哈长大,二战期间参加了美国陆军,在阿拉斯加任气象员。战争结束后,他获得哈佛大学法学院学位,成为加州一家公司的律师。

他也成为了一名认真的投资者。1959年,他在奥马哈一家餐馆首次见到巴菲特。经过多年来在众多投资上的合作,两人于1978年终于在伯克希尔成为全职搭档,芒格出任了这家公司的副董事长。

他们早期的一项交易是收购了伯克希尔旗下最知名的品牌之一。1972年,芒格说服巴菲特共同以2,500万美元收购了加州盒装巧克力生产商See's Candies。虽然按一些指标衡量收购价似乎太高,但这项交易却大获成功,共带来了10多亿美元的税前利润。

纽约基金管理公司T2 Partners LLC的经理蒂尔森(Whitney Tilson)说,如果没有这样的投资,伯克希尔不太可能发展成现在这么大。他说,芒格帮助巴菲特鉴别了一些高质量的投资,在几十年后带来了数十亿美元的收入。T2 Partners持有伯克希尔的股票。

在财务方面,巴菲特做得更好。根据福布斯杂志的世界富人排名榜,巴菲特2008年的净资产为370亿美元,排名世界第二,仅次于微软(Microsoft Corp.)创始人盖茨(Bill Gates)。芒格在这份名单上排名522位,净资产为14亿美元。

芒格赢得了伯克希尔公司董事盖茨(Bill Gates)的尊重。盖茨说,当美国司法部上世纪90年代末指控微软在Windows操作系统上滥用垄断权力时,他曾向芒格寻求法律建议。在创立比尔及梅林达.盖茨基金会(Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation)方面,他也曾征求过芒格的意见。

盖茨在接受采访时说,如果没有芒格的辅佐,巴菲特恐怕很难做得这么好

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Fortune Magazine

Warren Buffett takes charge

Warren Buffett hasn't just seen the car of the future, he's sitting in the driver's seat. Why he's banking on an obscure Chinese electric car company and a CEO who - no joke - drinks his own battery fluid.

By Marc Gunther

Last Updated: April 13, 2009: 9:29 AM ET

(Fortune Magazine) -- Warren Buffett is famous for his rules of investing: When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for bad economics, it is usually the reputation of the business that remains intact. You should invest in a business that even a fool can run, because someday a fool will. And perhaps most famously, Never invest in a business you cannot understand.

So when Buffett's friend and longtime partner in Berkshire Hathaway (BRKB), Charlie Munger, suggested early last year that they invest in BYD, an obscure Chinese battery, mobile phone, and electric car company, one might have predicted Buffett would cite rule No. 3 above. He is, after all, a man who shunned the booming U.S. tech industry during the 1990s.

But Buffett, who is 78, was intrigued by Munger's description of the entrepreneur behind BYD, a man named Wang Chuan-Fu, whom he had met through a mutual friend. "This guy," Munger tells Fortune, "is a combination of Thomas Edison and Jack Welch - something like Edison in solving technical problems, and something like Welch in getting done what he needs to do. I have never seen anything like it."

Coming from Munger, that meant a lot. Munger, the 85-year-old vice chairman of Berkshire Hathaway, is a curmudgeon who frowns on most investment ideas. "When I call Charlie with an idea," Buffett tells me, "and he says, 'That is really a dumb idea,' that means we should put 100% of our net worth into it. If he says, 'That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard,' then you should put 50% of your net worth into it. Only if he says, 'I'm going to have you committed,' does it mean he really doesn't like the idea."

This time Buffett asked another trusted partner, David Sokol, chairman of a Berkshire-owned utility company called MidAmerican Energy, to travel to China and take a closer look at BYD.

Last fall Berkshire Hathaway bought 10% of BYD for $230 million. The deal, which is awaiting final approval from the Chinese government, didn't get much notice at the time. It was announced in late September, as the global financial markets teetered on the abyss. But Buffett and Munger and Sokol think it is a very big deal indeed. They think BYD has a shot at becoming the world's largest automaker, primarily by selling electric cars, as well as a leader in the fast-growing solar power industry.

Wang Chuan-Fu started BYD (the letters are the initials of the company's Chinese name) in 1995 in Shenzhen, China. A chemist and government researcher, Wang raised some $300,000 from relatives, rented about 2,000 square meters of space, and set out to manufacture rechargeable batteries to compete with imports from Sony and Sanyo. By about 2000, BYD had become one of the world's largest manufacturers of cellphone batteries. The company went on to design and manufacture mobile-phone handsets and parts for Motorola (MOT, Fortune 500), Nokia (NOK), Sony Ericsson, and Samsung.

Wang entered the automobile business in 2003 by buying a Chinese state-owned car company that was all but defunct. He knew very little about making cars but proved to be a quick study. In October a BYD sedan called the F3 became the bestselling sedan in China, topping well-known brands like the Volkswagen Jetta and Toyota (TM) Corolla.

BYD has also begun selling a plug-in electric car with a backup gasoline engine, a move putting it ahead of GM, Nissan, and Toyota. BYD's plug-in, called the F3DM (for "dual mode"), goes farther on a single charge - 62 miles - than other electric vehicles and sells for about $22,000, less than the plug-in Prius and much-hyped Chevy Volt are expected to cost when they hit the market in late 2010. Put simply, this little-known upstart has accelerated ahead of its much bigger rivals in the race to build an affordable electric car. Today BYD employs 130,000 people in 11 factories, eight in China and one each in India, Hungary, and Romania.

Its U.S. operations are small - about 20 people work in a sales and marketing outpost in Elk Grove Village, Ill., near Motorola, and another 20 or so work in San Francisco, not far from Apple. BYD makes about 80% of Motorola's RAZR handsets, as well as batteries for iPods and iPhones and low-cost computers, including the model distributed by Nicholas Negroponte's One Laptop per Child nonprofit based in Cambridge, Mass. Revenues, which have grown by about 45% annually during the past five years, reached $4 billion in 2008.

In acquiring a stake in BYD, Buffett broke a couple of his own rules. "I don't know a thing about cellphones or batteries," he admits. "And I don't know how cars work." But, he adds, "Charlie Munger and Dave Sokol are smart guys, and they do understand it. And there's no question that what's been accomplished since 1995 at BYD is extraordinary."

One more thing reassured him. Berkshire Hathaway first tried to buy 25% of BYD, but Wang turned down the offer. He wanted to be in business with Buffett - to enhance his brand and open doors in the U.S., he says - but he would not let go of more than 10% of BYD's stock. "This was a man who didn't want to sell his company," Buffett says. "That was a good sign."

***

We're lost in Shenzhen. I've flown 8,000 miles to meet Wang, and on the way to the interview, my driver pulls to the side of a dusty highway. He's yelling in Cantonese into his phone and frenetically sketching Chinese characters on the touchscreen of a GPS navigator. The PR woman beside me looks worried. "The GPS isn't working," she says. "Too many new roads."

I can't blame the driver or the GPS - which, it occurs to me, was probably made nearby, since Shenzhen is the manufacturing hub of the global electronics industry, the place your cellphone, digital camera, and laptop probably came from. Just across a river from Hong Kong, Shenzhen is the biggest and fastest-growing city in the world that most Americans cannot find on a map. It's also the Chinese city most like America, because people who live here have come from elsewhere in search of a better life.

When Deng Xiaoping designated Shenzhen as China's first "special economic zone" in 1980, inviting capitalism to take root, it was a fishing village; today, it's a sprawling megacity of 12 million to 14 million people, most of them migrant workers who toil in vast factories like those run by BYD and earn about 1,300 renminbi, or $190, per month.

When we find BYD's new headquarters - a silvery office building that would not look out of place in Silicon Valley - I'm given a tour of the company "museum," which celebrates products and milestones from the firm's brief history, and then escorted into a conference room where plates of apples, bananas, and cherry tomatoes are spread on a table. Wang takes a seat across from me - he is 43, a smallish man, with black hair and glasses - and begins, through an interpreter, to tell me his story.

He started BYD with a modest goal: to edge in on the Japanese-dominated battery business. "Importing batteries from Japan was very expensive," Wang says. "There were import duties, and delivery times were long." He studied Sony and Sanyo patents and took apart batteries to understand how they were made, a "process that involved much trial and error," he says. (Sony and Sanyo later sued BYD, unsuccessfully, for infringing on their patents.)

BYD's breakthrough came when Wang decided to substitute migrant workers for machines. In place of the robotic arms used on Japanese assembly lines, which cost $100,000 or more apiece, BYD actually cut costs by hiring hundreds, then thousands, of people.

"When I first visited the BYD factory, I was shocked," says Daniel Kim, a Merrill Lynch technology analyst based in Hong Kong, who has been to the fully automated production lines in Japan and Korea. "It's a completely different business model." To control quality, BYD broke every job down into basic tasks and applied strict testing protocols. By 2002, BYD had become one of the top four manufacturers worldwide - and the largest Chinese manufacturer - in each of the three rechargeable battery technologies (Li-Ion, NiCad, and NiMH), according to a Harvard Business School case study of the company. And Wang stresses that BYD, unlike Sony and Sanyo, has never faced a recall of its batteries.

Deploying the armies of laborers at BYD is an officer corps of managers and engineers who invent and design the products. Today the company employs about 10,000 engineers who have graduated from the company's training programs - some 40% of those who enter either drop out or are dismissed - and another 7,000 new college graduates are being trained. Wang says the engineers come from China's best schools. "They are the top of the top," he says. "They are very hard-working, and they can compete with anyone." BYD can afford to hire lots of them because their salaries are only about $600 to $700 a month; they also get subsidized housing in company-owned apartment complexes and low-cost meals in BYD canteens. "They're basically breathing, eating, thinking, and working at the company 24/7," says a U.S. executive who has studied BYD.

Wang typically works until 11 p.m. or midnight, five or six days a week. "In China, people of my generation put work first and life second," says the CEO, whose wife takes responsibility for raising their two children.

This "human resource advantage" is "the most important part" of BYD's strategy, Wang says. His engineers investigate a wide array of technologies, from automobile air-conditioning systems that can run on batteries to the design of solar-powered streetlights. Unlike most automakers, BYD manufactures nearly all its cars by itself - not just the engines and body but air conditioning, lamps, seatbelts, airbags, and electronics. "It is difficult for others to compete," Wang says. "If we put our staff in Japan or the U.S., we could not afford to do anything like this."

Wang himself grew up in extreme poverty. His parents, both farmers, died before he entered high school, and he was raised by an older brother and sister. The train ride from the village where he grew up to Central South Industrial University of Technology, where he earned his chemistry degree, took him by Yellow Mountain, a popular destination for hikers and tourists, but he has never visited there. "I didn't go then because we had no money," he says. "I don't go now because we have no time."

As for accumulating wealth? "I'm not interested in it," he claims. He certainly doesn't live a very lavish lifestyle. He was paid about $265,000 in 2008, and he lives in a BYD-owned apartment complex with other engineers. His only indulgences are a Mercedes and a Lexus, and they have a practical purpose: He takes their engines apart to see how they work. On a trip to the U.S., he once tried to disassemble the seat of a Toyota owned by Fred Ni, an executive who was driving him around. Shortly after BYD went public, Wang did something extraordinary: He took approximately 15% of his holdings in BYD and distributed the shares to about 20 other executives and engineers at the company. He still owns roughly 28% of the shares, worth about $1 billion.

The company itself is frugal. Until recently, executives always flew coach. One told me he was appalled when he learned that Ford, which lost billions last year, had staged a gala at the Hotel George V during the Paris auto show. By contrast, the last time BYD executives traveled to the Detroit auto show they rented a suburban house to save the cost of hotel rooms.

This attention to costs is one reason that BYD has made money consistently even as it has expanded into new businesses. Each of BYD's business units - batteries, mobile-phone components, and autos - was profitable in 2008, albeit on a small scale. Overall, net profits were around $187 million. BYD, which is traded on the Hong Kong exchange, has a market value of about $3.8 billion. That's less than Ford (F, Fortune 500) ($7 billion at the beginning of April), but more than General Motors (GM, Fortune 500) ($1.3 billion).

Near the end of our conversation, I ask Wang about the company name. It's been reported that BYD stands for "Build your dreams," but he says he added that as the company motto only later. Others say that as Motorola, Apple, and Berkshire Hathaway have made their way to Shenzhen, the name has taken on yet another meaning: Bring your dollars.

***

When David Sokol toured BYD's operations last summer, Wang took him to a battery factory and explained that BYD wants to make its batteries 100% recyclable. To that end, the company has developed a nontoxic electrolyte fluid. To underscore the point, Wang poured battery fluid into a glass and drank it. "Doesn't taste good," he said, making a face and offering a sip to Sokol.

Sokol declined politely. But he got the message. "His focus there was that if we're going to help solve environmental problems, we can't create new environmental problems with our technology," Sokol says.

Sokol, author of a slim volume on management principles called Pleased but Not Satisfied, sized up Wang during that visit and decided he was an unusually purposeful executive. Sokol says, "Many good entrepreneurs can go from zero to a couple of million in revenues and a couple of hundred people. He's got over 100,000 people. Few can do that." When he got back to the U.S., Sokol told Buffett, "This guy's amazing. You want to meet him."

Even before visiting BYD, Sokol believed in electric cars. His people at MidAmerican have studied clean technologies like batteries and wind power for years because of the threat of climate change. One way or another, Sokol says, energy companies will need to produce more energy while emitting less carbon dioxide.

Electric cars will be one answer. They generate fewer greenhouse gas emissions than cars that burn gasoline, and they have lower fuel costs, even when oil is cheap. That's because electric engines are more efficient than internal-combustion engines, and because generating energy on a large scale (in coal or nuclear plants) is less wasteful than doing it on a small scale (by burning gasoline in an internal-combustion engine).

The numbers look something like this: Assume you drive 12,000 miles a year, gas costs $2 a gallon, and electricity is priced at 12¢ per kilowatt, about what most Americans pay. A gasoline-powered car that gets 20 miles to the gallon - say, a Chevy Impala or a BMW X3 - will have annual fuel costs of $1,200 and generate about 6.6 tons of carbon dioxide. Equip those cars with electric motors, and fuel costs drop to $400 a year and emissions are reduced to about 1.5 tons.

The big problem is that they are expensive to make, and the single largest cost is the battery. Manufacturing a safe, reliable, long-lasting, and fast-charging battery for a car is a complex and costly undertaking. BYD claims to have achieved a breakthrough with its lithium ion ferrous phosphate technology, but no one can be sure whether it will work as promised.

Skeptics say that BYD's battery cannot be both more powerful and cheaper than those made by competitors, and the U.S. Department of Energy has purchased an F3DM to take the battery apart. Chitra Gopal, an analyst with Nomura Securities in Singapore who follows the company closely, says BYD is betting on "entirely new technology, and the ability to produce it at scale and at a low cost remains unproven." William Moore, publisher and editor-in-chief of EV World, an electric car website, says, "They need to persuade people that they are selling a reliable, durable, quality automobile."

Even BYD's admirers say the fit and finish of the company's cars leave much to be desired. "Their cars are way behind Toyota, for sure," Sokol admits. BYD currently exports gasoline-powered cars to Africa, South America, and the Middle East, but they compete on price, not quality.

BYD's first plug-in hybrid, called a dual-mode car, is designed to run primarily on electricity, with an internal- combustion engine for backup. Two all-electric cars - the E3 and the E6 - will follow later this year. Both will be sold first in China, primarily to fleet users: the government, post office, utilities, and taxi companies, all of which will build central fast-charging facilities. Europe, with its high gas prices, is the most promising export market for BYD's electric cars. Wang signed an agreement last year with Autobinck, a Dutch dealer group, to distribute its cars in the Netherlands and five Eastern European countries.

The company hasn't yet decided whether it will enter the U.S. market, where the economics of electric cars are not as compelling. Sokol, who now sits on BYD's board, says BYD could instead become a battery supplier to global automakers. Some Americans, though, are eager to do business with BYD. The day after Fortune's visit to BYD, Oregon Gov. Ted Kulongoski arrived to test-drive an electric car and urge the company to import through the port of Portland. Meanwhile, BYD researchers are on to their next big idea, a product they call a Home Clean Power Solution. It's essentially a set of rooftop solar photovoltaic panels with batteries built in to store power for use when the sun's not out, all to be designed and manufactured by BYD. "Solar is an endless source of energy," Wang says. "With better technology, we can reduce the costs."

Wang is also focused on building a stronger executive team to drive the company forward. "The good news is, he's 42 years old," Sokol says. "The bad news is that he's clearly the brains behind the organization, and the drive. He has to develop a team faster, but I think he knows that." Last winter it was Sokol's turn to lead Wang on a tour of his home country. They started in Detroit, where BYD's cars generated buzz at the North American Auto Show, and wound up on the West Coast, where Wang met for the first time with Charlie Munger. In between, they stopped in Omaha.

"How did BYD get so far ahead?" Warren Buffett asked Wang, speaking through a translator. "Our company is built on technological know-how," Wang answered. Wary as always of a technology play, Buffett asked how BYD would sustain its lead. "We'll never, never rest," Wang replied.

Buffett may not understand batteries or cars, or Mandarin for that matter. Drive, however, is something that needs no translation. <!--[if !vml]-->To top of page<!--[endif]-->

First Published: April 13, 2009: 5:54 AM ET

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谢谢Lewie。看到比亚迪公司内部有些充电桩。。。 如果能够普及,可大大减少大城市的空气污染。
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