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原来企业税费这么重?

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发表于 2009-8-23 14:03:24 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
今天看了一下沪深300里去掉金融企业的270多家企业2008年的税费。现金流量表里的“支付的各项税费”竟然近6400亿,而同期净利润只有4350亿多。税(费)率是59%<a href="javascript:emoticon('18')">利润表里列出的营业税和所得税加起来只有3400亿。我以前一直以为企业就交这3500亿<a href="javascript:emoticon('47')">为何将近一半的税费都不列在利润表里?
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发表于 2009-8-27 20:18:43 | 显示全部楼层

"为何将近一半的税费都不列在利润表里?"

答案简单:流转税最重要的税种,增值税,是价外税,和企业利润的实现(基本)无关.

至于中国企业实际税赋水平与国际水平的比较,是一个很大的课题.难以一概而论.但起码需细分行业讨论比较.楼主的推论过程及结论过于简单了~

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发表于 2009-8-23 15:52:19 | 显示全部楼层

是否存在递延税项?

你多看几年的数据看,看看几年的数字累加起来能否吻合?

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发表于 2009-8-23 19:16:02 | 显示全部楼层
中国内资企业的税费比例相对全世界来看确实属于偏高,所以很多企业都用假合资来逃税
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发表于 2009-8-24 12:07:00 | 显示全部楼层

做一般企业 不避税 根本没有办法活下去!

17%增值税 还有教育 城建税 各种摊派和募捐 加上某些个人好处 请客和招待费用入不了帐 哈哈 多拉

做过企业就知道了

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发表于 2009-8-27 18:22:17 | 显示全部楼层

更值得我们关注的是高额的税收去了那里.下面是马来西亚日报的原文连接 http://www.malaya.com.ph/FEB23/news1.htm

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Making ‘Moral Force’
a force for change
Puno rallies leaders behind movement vs corruption


BY EVANGELINE DE VERA

CHIEF Justice Reynato Puno is forming an advisory council to the "Moral Force" movement in the fight against corruption.

Supreme Court spokesman Jose Midas Marquez confirmed that Puno has been talking with leaders from the business, Church, media, governance, youth and other sectors to form part of the advisory council.

Among those who have reportedly accepted Puno’s offer were a businessman involved in telecommunications, a media mogul, and a former lady ambassador.

Marquez begged off from naming them.

He said talks are ongoing with leaders of different sectors to complete the advisory council.

But he said Puno plans to convene the members of the advisory council next week to come up with parameters for the moral force movement prior to its official launching which may take place before the Holy Week in April.

"There will be no politicians involved. The advisory council will be composed of highly respected individuals who have no political affiliations and who represent different sectors of society," he said.

Marquez said Puno does not want to lead the council and will be content to be just the catalyst for the movement which he said is neither anti-administration nor pro-opposition.

Its primary purpose, he said, will be to inform the public on the ills of society so they will not be desensitized into inaction.

"It’s going to be a positive-neutral constructive movement. It won’t point an accusing finger at anyone. It’s just to make people aware of rampant corruption in government, etc. and for them to make a stand. It’s not only for the administration but also for opposition," he said.

Aside from exposing graft and corruption in the government, Marquez said the Moral Force will also campaign for clean and honest elections in 2010 and actively promote programs that will help alleviate poverty in the country.

He said the group will not support any particular political candidate in 2010 as it intends to remain neutral.

Told the movement might be misconstrued as a vehicle for Puno’s political bid, Marquez said: "If it’s a choice between being misconstrued and inaction, we’d rather be misconstrued."

Puno is retiring in May next year. Last month, he ended speculations he is eyeing the presidency next year, saying that his three "advisers," referring to his three grandchildren ages 7, 5 and 4, were against it.

Marquez said Puno is concerned about declining moral standards that he said has led to problems such as poverty, crimes, and graft and corruption.

"History will tell us that a lot of civilizations have fallen because they were not able to arrest moral decadence. Pag nagtuloy-tuloy pa, baka bumagsak ang democracy," he said.

Puno earlier said that the country’s main problem is moral decadence, which he said is the root cause of graft and corruption and poverty.

"You look at it more deeply. You look at it from its various dimensions. That’s why… it’s time for the moral forces of the country to manifest themselves. They should cease to be an invisible force. They should play a dominant role in redirecting the destiny of our people," Puno has said.

中国军费的投入早已引起巨大的关注,上文说的是我国在菲律BING十公里近海处的动作,一个人工岛的建立不少于300亿(不含每

年的维护费.) 我国在南海问题上并不如舆论质疑般软弱.其目的只是为了制造航空妈妈占领道德制高点!

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-8-23 16:35:03 | 显示全部楼层
递延税项搞不出那么多的。掷兄随便找个报表看一下就能看到。有些企业比如煤炭可能资源费比较多。税费会大于净利润。不过就是医药企业交掉的税费也跟净利润相仿。我是自己没开过公司,原来要交这么多银子。
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发表于 2009-8-23 18:32:20 | 显示全部楼层

呵呵,你们才知道啊。如果大家把历年GDP增幅、财政收入增幅、税收增幅和居民收入增幅摆在一起算算帐,大家会明白很多事情的。

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-9-11 10:35:15 | 显示全部楼层
谢谢大家。秦淮老师说的不错增值税占了很大一部分。
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