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发表于 2009-3-2 19:42:58 | 显示全部楼层

"股神"08年损失数十亿 致股东信承认投资出错

国亿万富翁沃伦?巴菲特旗下的伯克希尔?哈撒韦公司2月28日公布年报说,去年第四季度投资收益骤降96%,全年表现为巴菲特1965年接手公司以来的最糟糕纪录。这位被奉为“股神”的投资大师在同时公布的致股东信中承认,去年一些投资的时机没有把握对,给公司造成数十亿美元损失。虽然2009年经济仍将“步履蹒跚”,但他相信美国会迎来“好日子”。
收益暴挫 业绩“最糟”

  据新华社电根据年报,伯克希尔?哈撒韦公司第四季度收益为1.17亿美元,比一年前的29.5亿美元下降96%,折合每股收益从1904美元降至76美元。

  从全年业绩看,公司收益从一年前的132.1亿美元降至如今的49.9亿美元,下跌62%,创6年来新低。公司资产减去负债后的账面价值为1092.7亿美元,比2007年的1207.3亿美元下跌9.6%。

  自巴菲特1965年接手以来,公司只有在2001年和2008年出现账面价值下跌情况,其中2001年跌幅为6.2%。这意味着巴菲特去年投资遭遇他掌舵以来的最严重冲击。

  其中,巴菲特的投资亏损大部分源于远期金融衍生合约的账面损失。此外,公司持有的前二十大重仓股截至去年年底总市值为519亿美元,其中19只股价在2008年下跌。第一大重仓股可口可乐公司股价全年下跌26%,美国运通公司跌64%,美国康菲石油公司下跌41%。

  受此影响,伯克希尔?哈撒韦公司股价2008年下跌44%。截至2月27日收盘时,公司股价为每股7.86万美元。由于投资者担忧年报可能存在利空消息,股价上周早些时候创下每股7.35万美元的5年来新低。
大举抄底 偶或“走眼”

  据新华社电过去一年中,全球投资者遭遇惨重损失。当大多数企业股价暴跌时,巴菲特砸出近200亿美元大举抄底。年报显示,伯克希尔?哈撒韦公司持有现金从一年前的443.3亿美元骤减至去年年底时的255.4亿美元。

  不过,投资大师偶尔也有“走眼”的时候。巴菲特承认,自己去年犯下至少1个重大投资失误,即在国际油价接近最高点时加仓美国康菲石油公司,从2007年持有的1750万股增至去年年底的8490万股。他说,自己没有想到去年能源价格能如此暴跌,这一投资失误给公司造成数十亿美元损失。此外,他还花2.44亿美元购买两家爱尔兰银行当时看上去“便宜”的股票,但随着全球金融股暴跌,公司财务报表上不得不再减记2700万美元账面损失。

  然而,考虑到全球市场普遍低迷的现状,巴菲特的投资表现依然获得一些同行赞誉。据彭博新闻社报道,在其他投资者很难赚钱的时候,巴菲特一些投资还能带来高达15%的收益率。

  “我能说,这个世界上,他比以前更具有竞争力了。”《永久价值:沃伦?巴菲特故事》的作者、股票经纪人安迪?基尔帕特里克说。
心得?市场

  “这一时期对于房地产、商品市场、企业债券和地方政府债券均具破坏力……到(2008年)年底,各类投资者遭血腥杀戮,感到困惑,犹如被丢进一场羽毛球比赛的小鸟。”

  心得?投资

  “我依旧认为,未来油价远高于当前40至50美元水平的可能性很大;但到目前为止,我完全错了……我还犯了其他已经为外界所知的(投资)错误……网球观众会用"非受迫性失误"来形容我的错误。”

  心得?购房

  “有房子是件美好的事情。我和家人已经在现在的住所生活了50年,还将生活下去。但购房的主要目的应该是(居住的)乐趣和实用性,不是盈利和再融资,而且所购房应该与购房者的收入相匹配。”

  心得?救市

  “不管接下来意味着什么,如果想让金融系统避免一场整体崩盘,政府去年强硬而迅捷的行动仍然至关重要。如果崩盘发生,我们经济的每个领域都将面临灾难性后果……华尔街、商业街和各类小街都在一条船上。”

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发表于 2009-3-3 09:20:30 | 显示全部楼层

巴菲特:投资的时候 悲观主义对你有帮助

沃伦?巴菲特(Warren Buffett)掌控的伯克希尔-哈撒韦(Berkshire Hathaway)2月28日发布巴菲特一年一度的“致股东信”,这类信一直都以平和亲切的行文和智慧幽默著称。以下是《华尔街日报》节选的部分内容:

  关于投资:

  我们就像迷途小鸟

  ●2008年,我在投资方面干了不少蠢事。我至少犯了一个重大错误,还有一些错误不那么严重,但也造成了不良后果。……此外,我还犯了一些疏忽大意的错,当新情况出现时,我本应反省自己的想法、迅速采取行动,但我却束手不前。

  ●年终之际,大大小小的投资者都是伤痕累累,困惑不已,就像误入羽毛球比赛的迷途小鸟。

  ●我们确信,比如说,经济在2009年将会混乱不堪,而且可能还会持续,但这个结论并不能告诉我们股市会涨还是会跌。
关于经济:

  猛药会带来副作用

  ●不久之后很多重大方面完全停止运转。整个国家的口号都变成了我小时候在餐馆墙上看到过的格言:“我们只相信上帝;其余人等请付现金。”

  ●用扑克牌的术语说,财政部和美国联邦储备委员会都已经“全部跟进”了。如果说此前为经济开出的药都是论杯装,那最近就是论桶。几乎确定无疑的是,这些以前无法想像的猛药会带来不好的副作用。

  ●要让金融系统避免彻底崩溃,政府去年采取的强有力的紧急措施必不可少,无论可能出现怎样的负面影响。一旦出现彻底崩溃,对我们经济中的所有领域都将造成灾难性的后果。不管喜不喜欢,华尔街、普通民众和美国各界人士都处于同样境地。

  ●不过,在这片坏消息之中,别忘了我们的国家过去曾经面临比当前严重得多的困境……美国从来不缺挑战。

  ●地方政府将来会面对比现在更困难的财政问题。我在去年的报告中谈到的养老金问题会成为地方政府困境的一个重大组成部分。许多州市2008年底检查资金状况时肯定都惊恐不已。资产与当前负债实际精算评估值之间的差距简直大得惊人。
关于衍生品:

  得吃几片阿司匹林

  ●更高的“透明度”??政治家、评论员和金融监管机构最喜欢用这个良方来避免将来出现严重问题??对衍生产品导致的问题也无能为力。我没听说有哪种报告机制能够大体不差地描述和衡量庞大复杂的衍生产品投资组合的风险。审计人员无法审计这些合约,监管机构也无法进行监管。当我读到使用这类衍生工具的公司10-K年报中“事项披露”部分时,我只知道自己最后对这些公司的投资组合状况一无所知(然后还得吃几片阿司匹林缓解头痛)。

关于房地产:

  2009年难以好转

  ●目前的房地产崩盘应当会让房屋买家、贷款提供商、经纪商和政府学到一些简单的教训,而这将确保房市将来的稳定。买房的时候,借款人应当实打实地预付至少10%的首期,月供也要在借款人收入可以轻松负担的范围之内。借款人的收入情况要仔细核实。

  ●居者有其屋虽然是个很美好的目标,但不应该是我们国家的首要目标。防止止赎才应该是努力的方向。

  ●去年的房屋销售情况很糟糕,2009年看起来不会好转。不过,面对价格合适的高品质经纪公司,我们还是会继续出手收购。

关于风险与投资:

  乐见价格下滑

  ●人们撰写这10年的金融史时,肯定会提到上世纪90年代的互联网泡沫和本世纪初的房地产泡沫。但2008年底的美国国债泡沫可能也会被认为几乎与前几次泡沫一样非同寻常。

  ●我们有585亿美元保险“游浮额”??这些资金并非我们所有,但由我们掌控并自主投资??丝毫没有损失。事实上,客户在2008年支付了28亿美元让我们持有这些游浮额。查理?芒格(巴菲特合伙人)和我觉得这很有意思。

  ●伯克希尔一直在对企业和证券展开收购,而市场的混乱为我们的收购交易提供了助力。投资的时候,悲观主义对你有帮助,而盲目乐观会害了你。

  ●另外,我们继续持有的债券和股票的市值随市场大势出现大幅缩水。查理和我对此并不担心。事实上,如果有资金可以增加头寸,我们很愿意看到这样的价格下滑。

  ●同样,2006年收购PacifiCorp时,我们大力发展风力发电。当时的风力发电量为33兆瓦。现在达到794兆瓦,而且还在继续增长。(在PacifiCorp,我们还发现了另外一种“风力”:这家公司当时有98个经常开会的委员会,现在只有28个。)
●几年前,我们的竞争对手被称为“杠杆并购机构”。但杠杆并购的名声已坏。因此,用奥威尔的说法,并购公司决定改名换姓。不过他们此前业务的基本组成部分并没有变,包括他们深爱的收费制度和对杠杆的热爱。它们的新称号成了“私募股权”。

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-3-15 22:27:28 | 显示全部楼层

巴老过去一周动态总结:


Published Sunday March 15, 2009
Warren Watch: Downgrade takes shares of Berkshire down a notch
BY STEVE JORDON
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER

While the stock market overall went up Friday for the fourth day in a row, Berkshire Hathaway Inc. shares reversed course after three days of gains.

A possible reason was Fitch Rating Service's downgrade by one notch of Berkshire's financial rating, to AA+ from AAA, and its bonds two steps, to AA from AAA.

Shrinking list
Berkshire Hathaway Inc. and General Electric Co. lost top-level debt ratings last week on concern about losses on financial instruments. Berkshire, however, retained its AAA status with Standard & Poor's, along with five other companies:
ExxonMobil
Johnson & Johnson
Automatic Data Processing
Microsoft
Pfizer

AAA status has long been a badge of honor for Berkshire, especially as other financial companies have struggled. Chairman Warren Buffett regularly points out that Berkshire's checks are good - shorthand for saying that Berkshire will pay any insurance claim or financial commitment, no matter how large.

Ratings indicate how likely a company is to meet its financial obligations, and a higher rating can mean lower interest costs if the company borrows money. The AA+ rating is "among the highest in Fitch's rating universe," according to a report on the rating change.

Fitch affirmed its AAA ratings for Berkshire's National Indemnity Co. of Omaha, for Geico and for 13 other insurance companies. Fitch's outlook for Berkshire's rating remained "negative," meaning it may be downgraded further.

The negative outlook reflects uncertainty about the financial market's effects on Berkshire, Fitch said, including economic conditions likely to reduce earnings over the next 12 to 18 months.

Berkshire's bond downgrade applies to 14 bond issues totaling $10.6 billion.

Berkshire continues to be rated AAA by Standard & Poor's and Moody's, which have been in the rating business longer than Fitch but often aren't as tough on ratings. Rating companies have been criticized for not recognizing financial problems sooner.

In their report on Berkshire, Fitch's Mark E. Rouck and Gregory Dickerson wrote that they have downgraded many insurance and financial businesses over the past several weeks "in light of the current stressful economic environment."

"Fitch believes that 'AAA' ratings are not appropriate at the holding company level for financial-oriented enterprises given significant market volatility and correlation of risks under stress, recently observed throughout the global economy," the report said.

Beyond that, the report cited derivative contracts negotiated by Buffett, the risk of future declines in the stocks Berkshire holds and the company's dependence on Buffett as its chief investment officer. (The concern over Buffett is not because of his age - he's 78 - but because "the company's ability to identify and purchase attractive operating companies is intimately tied to Mr. Buffett," the report said.)

Derivatives are complex financial instruments which "derive" their value from other assets. While Buffett has criticized derivatives in general, he also negotiated some contracts for Berkshire and said last week that he might do more.

"We do anything that I think I understand and where I think that the odds strongly favor making money, which doesn't mean you make money every time," he told Bloomberg News, just days before the Fitch issued its report.

Despite its doubts about derivatives, Fitch said Berkshire's contracts have favorable features, are "well-managed" and likely are worth more than listed on Berkshire's books.

Fitch said Berkshire's exposure to market forces, including its large holdings of company stocks, is "inconsistent with the stability required at the 'AAA' level." Berkshire spreads that risk by owning a variety of companies, the report said, but not enough to keep the AAA rating.

The bond rating was downgraded partly because bonds issued by Berkshire would come second to its insurance obligations, a more significant factor "in the current environment," Fitch said.

The report endorsed Buffett's "opportunistic investment style" of putting Berkshire's money to work, but it noted the company's lower 2008 net income and the declining value in its stock holdings during the year.

Fitch said it received some nonpublic information for Berkshire in its review process but does not meet regularly with Berkshire's management.


Crazy Warren?

The New Yorker's headline: "Is Warren Buffett Crazy?"

The answer, James Surowiecki wrote, is probably not.

The question applied to Buffett's statement last week that now is "a great time to be in banking." Surowiecki wrote that "there's a chance, at least, that Buffett was right."

With the Federal Reserve cutting interest rates for its funds, Surowiecki wrote, banks can make more profit on money they lend.

Money costs Wells Fargo Bank just 1.44 percent interest, well below the rate that the bank is charging for loans, and that wide "spread" means profits for banks.

Banks have lots of bad assets and are threatened with being taken over by the government, or nationalized, Surowiecki wrote.

But he added, "At the very least, though, history suggests that Buffett has not gone around the bend, and that it's a mistake to think that nationalization is the only plausible solution to our current banking crisis."


No raise

Buffett's 2008 salary was his customary $100,000, plus $75,000 in fees for serving on Berkshire-related boards of directors, his annual shareholders' proxy statement showed.

Shareholders who meet in Omaha May 2 will be asked to re-elect all 11 Berkshire directors, who serve one-year terms and received between $2,700 and $6,700 last year in fees for attending meetings. Three members of the audit committee received the higher amounts.

The statement said Berkshire provided Buffett with $315,709 worth of personal and home security services. In addition, Buffett reimbursed Berkshire $50,000 for using Berkshire personnel and for minor expenses such as postage or phone calls for personal use.

Berkshire shareholders also may be asked to vote on a proposal by shareholder Joseph Petrofski of Nevada City, Calif., requesting that Berkshire produce a "sustainability report" showing the impact of the company's operations on the environment.

Berkshire said the vote will take place if the proposal is properly presented, but recommended against it, saying that while sustainability is important, a report would be costly and not benefit shareholders.


Looking inward

Buffett visited Switzerland, Germany, Spain and Italy last year to make himself known to business owners who might consider selling to Berkshire. Now, while a purchase in Europe is still possible, he said a domestic deal is more likely.

"The way things are going, there's a lot of things that may be happening in the United States," he told Bloomberg News.

Buffett has spent down Berkshire's cash hoard from $45 billion a year ago to about $25 billion, and even sold holdings in Johnson & Johnson and ConocoPhillips to keep the company's cash plentiful while making his latest purchases.

"Frankly, when we had $45 billion, the threshold wasn't as high for the first deal as it would be subsequently. I'm open for business, but it's got to be the best business in town."

He also said sales are off sharply at Berkshire's consumer-oriented businesses.

"The change in the American consumer's behavior in the last six months is like nothing that's ever happened," he said. "They won't go in our jewelry stores. They've got the money, but when Valentine's comes along, they think: 'I still love my wife, you know, but I'll just tell her this year.' "


Eyeing Bulgaria

Dnevnik, a business newspaper in Sofia, Bulgaria, reported that a Berkshire division plans to offer loan insurance in Bulgaria.


'The right guy'

Buffett, a supporter of Barack Obama, called the president's messages on the economy "muddled" and opposed some of the positions Obama favors, such as carbon dioxide fees, labor election rules and corporate jets.

But during a CNBC interview, Buffett also defended Obama, saying he's "the right guy." Obama is well-spoken, Buffett said, adding:

"You need the president of the United States to make it very clear. Because if people aren't clear, they're going to be confused. And if they're going to be confused, they are going to be scared stiff. And that has to end."

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发表于 2009-3-16 20:19:51 | 显示全部楼层

最近反复阅读并审视巴菲特2009年致股东信,第一感觉就是,伯克希尔公司在去年世界性经济严重逆转的情况下,整体上业绩还是不错的,可以说“全年表现可圈可点”。因为从长期看,伯克希尔公司的每股账面价值从19美元上升到了70530美元,年增长率为20.3%。而从短期看,虽然2008年伯克希尔公司亏损了115亿美元,但是与2008年初公司净资产1207亿美元比,亏损的幅度也只有9.6%,相对于标准普尔500指数下跌了37%的幅度,还是跑赢了大盘。因此,对于伯克希尔股东而言,应该可以感到欣慰了。如果看看那些投资公司和基金大批大批的“遍体鳞伤”,甚至土崩瓦解就再也清楚不过了。

除去其中所说的两项失败的投资,总体上伯克希尔的“买卖还真不错”:

1、伯克希尔的制造业、服务业和零售业产生了大量的现金流,取得了17.9%增长。

2、伯克希尔最重要的两项生意:保险业务和公共事业的业务也都逆市增长,也产生了大量利润。公司旗下的保险集团连续第六年贡献了承保收入,现在伯克希尔手头上持有585亿浮存金,虽然这些浮存金不属于伯克希尔,但是却可以归伯克希尔持有,这笔浮存金给伯克希尔带来了28亿美元的收入。

3、在投资方面,伯克希尔购买了145亿箭牌、高盛和GE的固定收益证券。这些固定收益债券以后每年都将有10%的收益率,而且5年内这些债券可以转换成股票。巴菲特说,“我们非常喜欢这些投资,它们自身的良好成长性让这些投资再满意不过。”

而且,更重要的是,虽然伯克希尔在2007年和2008年已经分别投入191亿和101亿美元买入股票或固定收益证券,但是公司在2008年年底竟然还坐拥271亿美元的现金,这在当前美国股市创下12年新低的时候,又意味了什么?

至于巴菲特所说的“严重的错误”,让我们看看究竟有多“严重”。伯克希尔投资在康菲石油上,成本为70亿美元,损失了26亿美元,年末缩水到44亿美元。然而综合所有的投资,其总成本是371亿美元,而年末总市值是491亿,还多出来120亿。而投资2亿4千万到两家爱尔兰银行,年末市值只有2千7百万,亏损89%,损失了2亿2千万。但是这些投资相比于伯克希尔的1000多亿的资产,又算得了什么呢?因此巴菲特所说的“严重”错误,不过是他那独特的巴菲特式的表达方式罢了。即使是这样罢,巴菲特本人也从未把单一年度的数字表现看得那么认真,毕竟没有什么道理要把企业反映盈余的期间与地球绕行太阳公转的周期画上等号。巴菲特经常建议至少以5年为一周期来评判企业整体的表现,如果5年平均利得要比美国企业平均来得差时,便要开始注意了。因此,投资者应考虑企业的长期发展,而不是股票市场的短期前景。举一个经典的例子,如果时光能够倒回1973-1974年,我们可以看到伯克希尔什么呢?1973年,巴菲特大量买进华盛顿邮报公司公众股,成为最大股东。到1974年末,巴菲特的投资总额由原先的1062万美元缩水为800万美元,市值缩水30%以上,而且此后一直到1976年华盛顿邮报的股票价格从未高于巴菲特买入的平均价格。那时我们是不是也要说巴菲特犯错误了呢?但是在伯克希尔持有华盛顿邮报30多年以后,其市值由最初1000多万美元增加到10多亿美元,我们又该如何评判?

巴菲特现在最想什么?致股东信中明确告诉我们:“无论是好年景还是坏时辰,查理和我都简单地紧盯四项目标:1、维系伯克希尔在金融上直布罗陀海峡般的位置。这意味着要有非常良好的资金流动性、适度的即将到期债务、数十个利润与现金的源泉;2、拓宽保护我们生意的 “护城河”,这会让我们的公司们具备长期竞争优势;3、收购和发展新的、各种各样的利润之源;4、扩大和培养优秀的管理团队,这个团队要能持续为伯克希尔创造出非凡价值。”这种思考的方向难道不值得我们深思吗?

投资是最容易犯错误的行业,看一看我们自己又犯了多少错误。而对于伯克希尔公司的股东来说,他们的掌舵人在过去的40多年中犯错误的频率可以说是最低的,并且两次错误发生的时间一般会相隔很远。特别是一旦巴菲特犯下错误后,他总是有办法力挽狂澜而转危为安,就这一点来看,伯克希尔的股东们是非常幸运的。但是在许多人看来,巴菲特似乎不应该错误,因为他是“股神”。然而我们知道巴菲特从不自诩为“股神”,我们记得他的搭档查理?芒格在一次韦斯科股东大会上清楚地说过,他们从来就无意于“造神”运动。既然不是神,为什么不能犯错误?我不明白有些人为什么总是喜欢夸大巴菲特的错误。总不至于因为“股神”犯错误了,我们也可以犯错误,我们就可以心安理得了?

实际上巴菲特如果犯错误了,对我们来说就是一次最好的教训,一个宝贵的经验。巴菲特在油价接近顶峰的时候,买了大量石油公司的股票,这就告诉我们一个简单的常识:任何一个人企图在市场过热的情势下进行交易,必将折戟沉沙,即使“股神”也不例外。李驰先生说得好:“其实巴菲特以前历史上不知道‘错’了多少次,但为什么没有妨碍他登上全球财富冠亚军宝座?倒过来说,如果他以前总不犯这样那样的错误,那他一定早就把比尔?盖茨甩到九霄云外去了。”其实伟大的投资者能够脱颖而出,也正因为他们善于从自己过去错误中学习以避免重犯的强烈渴望。而大多数人却经常忽略他们曾做过的愚蠢决定,继续向前冲。如果忽略了往日的错误而不是全面分析它,毫无疑问还会犯相似的错。坦诚错误对于巴菲特是常事,这并不奇怪。20年前的1989年,巴菲特在致股东信中就曾详细解剖了“前25年的错误”,那时巴菲特表示,他希望25年后还能向各位报告伯克希尔头50年所犯的错误,因此2015年的年报,“大家应该可以确定这一部份将占据更多的版面”。

基于以上所述,我想一些高喊着巴菲特将要“裸泳”、将要“倒下”、甚至“晚节不保”的人,最好先仔细阅读并深刻领会2009年致股东信的精神实质,然后再做定论也不迟,如果一个人总是不能正确评判一件事,那么他在其他方面也不见的就能够做得好。

最后看看巴菲特是如何对待经济危机的吧,我以为这是全文中最精彩的部分,也是我们最应该要着重学习的部分:

“尽管身处坏消息之中,但不要忘记,我们的国家曾经面临过远比这糟糕的局面。仅仅在20世纪,我们就曾面对过两次大战 (其中有一次我们似乎都要输掉战争了);十多次的阵痛和衰退;1980年,恶性通货膨胀曾导致高达21.5%的基本利率;还有1930年代的大萧条,大萧条期间的很多年中,失业率一直在15%到25%间徘徊。美国可从不缺挑战。

没有失败,只因为我们战胜了失败。面对着这么多障碍??其他还有很多??美国人的实际生活水准在20世纪翻了七番,道琼斯工业指数从66点上升到11497点。与之形成对比的是,在数十个世纪中,人类都只能依靠微薄所得(如果有的话)过活。尽管前进之路并不平坦,我们的经济体系在过去运转得相当不错。没有其他体系能像它那样激发出人类的潜力,而且这套体系还会继续如此运作。美国最好的日子还在前头。在过去44年中,75%的时间里,标准普尔指数都代表着收获。我猜,接下来44年中,大概有相同比例的年份也相当不错。”

可以说,就是这种对经济前景深具信心,充满乐观主义的精神,才使得巴菲特及其伙伴有勇气战胜一切困难,因为300年的资本市场发展已经证明,市场低迷萧条不可能持续到永远,只要世界还在继续。这对于一些对经济情势老是忧心忡忡的人有什么启示呢?当然,可能有些人会认为巴非特原来就是太乐观了,因此犯了大错。但是是否大错,时间将告诉我们,因为投资还是要看得久远些才好。

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2008         
序号企业股份数量控股比例买入成本市值08收市买入价现价损失
  (股)%(万美元)(万美元)    
1华盛顿邮报(WPO)172776518.4106067400390.10 6.14 360.49-0.51
2可口可乐(KO)2000000008.6129888.890540045.27 6.49 40.85-8.84
3富国银行(WFC)3043920687.267020089730029.48 22.02 12.1-52.90
4美国运通(AXP)15161070013.112870028120018.55 8.49 12.06-9.84
5宝洁(PG)919410103.16430056840061.82 6.99 48.17-12.55
6沃尔马(WMT)199443000.59420011180056.06 47.23 49.24-1.36
7康菲石油(COP)175087001.110390015460088.30 59.34 37.35-8.92
8强生(JNJ)300095911.118470017950059.81 61.55 50-2.95
9浦项制铁(PKX)39475545.276800119100301.71 194.55 50.17-9.93
10Tesco(特易购)2273070002.91326001193005.25 5.83   
11美国合众银行(USB)751454264.323370018790025.00 31.10 14.31-8.04
12瑞士再保险(SWCEY)112620003.2773005300047.06 68.64 12.35-3.91
13卡夫食品(KFT)1302725008.943300034980026.85 33.24 22.78-5.30
14赛诺菲-安万特(SNY)221119661.718270014040063.50 82.62 25.62-8.37
          
 现价为2月末收市价,损失为本年头2个月的市值损失,剔除TESCO未计算,单位是亿美元       -133.42

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老巴是笨啊,当年买入华盛顿邮报后套牢50%呢,还有只股票50多块买入,最多时跌倒5块多,多惨啊!

请教下lewie:

富国银行买入价22是怎么算出来的,按买入成本看,老巴没亏啊!

康菲石油(COP)你表里的买入价格是59.34,test62却说康菲的最高价在95,巴的平均成本大约在83,不知哪个准确?

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原文由 test62 发表于 2009-3-2 9:13:58 :

去年,我曾经写了一篇博文<时间出鞘米勒报销>提出了时间这个东东的消蚀性的一面。后来也看到一些人,特别是价值投资者们,对比尔。米勒的最终失败的‘反思’ ,可惜的是,这些人基本上将米勒的失败归诸于其个人能力或者性格的原因,当时我就指出,这种名为‘反思’ ,实为价值投资法致命缺陷开脱是价值投资者们的集体迷思。


test62的一些说法还是挺值得一读,时间这个东西在投资中扮演的角色确实值得深入思考。不过不管是价值投资者还是趋势投资者还是其他什么类型的投资者,在运用以前的经验来指导未来操作的过程中,每隔一段时间就会有人中箭落马(甚至包括每个阵营里的名家),我觉得他们表面上看是输给了时间,但其实是输给了不确定性。可能一般人都习惯于在一种思维结论中打转,认为未来会按照自己所设想的那样发生(包括老兄博文中所谈的对行情的看法),可是如果未来没有如自己预想的那样发生,他就中箭落马了。我想这是每一种类型投资者所面临的共同难题,只有解决了这个难题的人,才能成为投资大家。
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发表于 2009-3-3 10:41:25 | 显示全部楼层
●另外,我们继续持有的债券和股票的市值随市场大势出现大幅缩水。查理和我对此并不担心。事实上,如果有资金可以增加头寸,我们很愿意看到这样的价格下滑。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-3-15 21:36:27 | 显示全部楼层

巴老刚刚丢掉世界首富的桂冠,评级机构又紧跟着落井下石,惠(毁:-)誉下调巴郡评级,虽然她申明其主要原因并不是因为巴老及其旗舰公司最近所犯下的‘错误’。另外,随着周四标普下降通用电气的评级后,目前同时出现在标普和穆迪的‘AAA’榜上,仅剩ADP(自动数据处理公司)、埃克森美孚、强生和丰田。


Friday, 13 Mar 2009
Fitch Downgrade of Berkshire Hathaway Reflects Industry-Wide Concerns About Financial Companies
Posted By: Alex Crippen

Berkshire Hathaway has lost its AAA credit rating from Fitch, but it doesn't look like the change is primarily due to any recent 'mistakes' by Warren Buffett and his holding company.

Almost at the top of its news release on the one-notch downgrade and negative outlook, Fitch says the move is part of a "broader review of insurance and financial services company ratings" due to the "current stressful economic environment."

It certainly makes it sound like Berkshire, or any other financial company, is going to have a hard time holding onto a triple-A rating in the current storm, no matter what it does or doesn't do.

"Fitch believes that 'AAA' ratings are not appropriate at the holding company level for financial-oriented enterprises given significant market volatility and correlation of risks under stress, recently observed throughout the global economy."

Fitch does specifically cite "potential earnings and capital volatility" from Berkshire's "large, unhedged market exposures" as being "inconsistent with the stability required at the 'AAA' level."

Those "exposures" include "large, concentrated equity investments" (Buffett is not a big believer in diversification) and the "various derivative contracts" that have caused so much concern among some investors, in part because they've generated large "mark-to-market" losses in Berkshire's earnings numbers.

Later in the release, however, Fitch echoes Buffett's own prediction that the long-term contracts will rebound in value before they mature years from now so that "the ultimate economic effects, while uncertain, are likely to be significantly less than indicated by the marks."

Buffett believes they'll eventually be profitable, and notes that Berkshire has been using the billions of dollars paid by the buyers of those contracts to make money-generating investments now.

Fitch also says its new, lower, ratings reflect a "long-standing" concern: the 'key man' risk posed by Warren Buffett himself. It has nothing to do with his age, says Fitch. Instead it attributes Berkshire's long-term success almost entirely to Buffett's abilities and says that the "concentration" is inconsistent with a triple-A rating.

While perhaps inevitable, the Fitch downgrade does appear to increase the liklihood the larger rating agencies, Standard & Poor's and Moody's, will also strip Berkshire of its top credit ratings.

Indeed, after General Electric's [GE 9.62 0.05 (+0.52%) ] downgrade by S&P yesterday, only four companies besides Berkshire still have triple-A ratings from both S&P and Moody's: Automatic Data Processing [ADP 35.36 0.24 (+0.68%) ], ExxonMobil [XOM 67.20 0.05 (+0.07%) ], Johnson & Johnson [JNJ 50.64 1.64 (+3.35%) ], and Toyota [TM 60.39 0.62 (+1.04%) ].

Current Berkshire stock prices:

Class A: [US;BRK.A 83550.0 -2150.00 (-2.51%) ]

Class B: [US;BRK.B 2741.5 -39.00 (-1.4%) ]

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伯克夏的2008年年报终于出来了,在巴迷们仍然为巴某人大幅度‘战胜’S&P的‘业绩’ 而津津乐道时,巴某人在投资交易路上的疲态已经毕现:

首先,其投资的金融股大幅度缩水。在其公布的十四个重仓股中,有四只属于金融类股,它们分别是American Express, Wells Fargo, US Bancorp, 和Swiss Re。在该年报中,American Express和Wells Fargo尚录得有收益,但经过09年2个月的调整,现在只有American Express还有收益,以09年2月27日收盘价计,大约在42%。这个投资曾经被人作为巴的‘经典之作’ 而大吹特吹。经过时间的洗礼,在这只巴三四十年前买入,上个世纪九十年代加仓的股票上,其年复合收益率已经不到1%!超长期投资得到这个结果,真是好一个‘经典战例’

这还算是表现最好的金融股。另外三个就惨不忍睹了:同样以09年2月27日收盘价计,Swiss Re损失近80%,US Bancorp损失约55%,Wells Fargo则损失了约45%。其中的Wells Fargo也曾经是巴迷们津津乐道的‘经典战例’ ,现在可能得作为不知道什么时候清仓的反面的‘经典’ 了。

去年,一篇博文<时间出鞘米勒报销>提出了时间这个东东的消蚀性的一面。后来也看到一些人,特别是价值投资者们,对比尔。米勒的最终失败的‘反思’ ,可惜的是,这些人基本上将米勒的失败归诸于其个人能力或者性格的原因,当时我就指出,这种名为‘反思’ ,实为价值投资法致命缺陷开脱是价值投资者们的集体迷思。

现在随着巴某人在金融长线股上的失败和那位投资花旗的阿拉伯王子18年投资,按最新价损失50%的实例,越来越可以看出,价值投资法缺乏有效的风险控制机制:你可以说金融股非米勒最擅长的,那么巴某人这个一些人眼中的‘股神’ 怎么也不知进退呢?

其次,其主要持股也随市场大幅度下调。我计算了一下,其14个主要持股的最新市值已经降为约302亿,已经总体亏损。从08年底到09年2月底,其14个主要仓位跌了大约31%,同期S&P跌了大约18+%。出现了明显的补跌现象。至于巴归为‘另外’(OTHERS) 的投资,08年底已经有11。6亿的浮亏,由于没有更详细资料无法算出最新数据,但根据市场表现,这些浮亏进一步扩大的可能性非常大。

还有,这次年报中显示,虽然巴非特中石油赚了不少钱,但他在接近最高价买了Conoco Philips(康菲的最高价在95,巴的平均成本大约在83,现价37+)。按照09年2月27日最新价,他在康菲上损失了38。3亿美金,这个已经超过了巴在中石油上赚的35。5亿美金。所以,将这两个操作结合起来看,巴出脱中石油有不少运气成分,至少他对能源价格的宏观把握是很成问题的,不然的话,他不会在出脱中石油后再在高位大量进入康菲。
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